Let"s face it Valerie; fabricators are at or near the bottom of the food
chain. I have bitten the proverbial lip on this subject as long as I can. I
emailed several people privately, before I signed up, about fabrication
related questions.
I sent at least 20 with answers which I believed to be accurate. I received
one response back. I continued to read the technet forums and, when I saw
something asked which I thought I could answer, I would e-mail the
individual with an answer. I thought if I signed up for Technet I would at
least get responses and opinions about my answers.  Well, that was my first
mistake. I should have kept on the sidelines and not have offered any input
in a general forum. I learned one valuable lesson:  A newbie should never
offer an opinion differing from the tenured professionals on any forum. The
good ole boys have all the right answers anyway.

At 02:15 PM 10/06/2005, you wrote:
>No one said or even suggested that fabricators wanted to segregate
>themselves from the "rest of the industry" (it wasn't a suggestion that
>came from a fabricator - someone is getting ahead of this...)
>
>I am not aware of any request for information wrt a PCB issue that was not
>answered, even if the answer was, unfortunately " we don't know enough";
>but there have always been replies
>
>Most fabricators don't need TechNet to get answers to PCB fab questions,
>they have their personal networks; when they do need an answer from a
>variety of sources or an answer that impacts on another discipline, and if
>they do know about TechNet, they use it ...
>
>Most fabricators, e.g. the individuals who monitor the processes or
>develop the processes or meet with the customers to develop solutions for
>their circuit boards, don't have the time or don't have the constant
>access to a computer to read all these emails all day and spend time
>writing essays
>
>Most fabricators are now no longer in North America and there are precious
>few in Europe
>
>And last, hopefully without sounding too off-putting, most of the problems
>most of the fabricators are working on can't be handled in this type of
>forum; it doesn't have the depth to deal with the content that fabricators
>are wrestling with; they also have to be very careful about naming
>products like laminates or chemistries, by the maker - that would not be
>professional since this isn't a very regulated medium and gossip can carry
>as far and wide as data; so you can't exactly say "is anyone using XXXX
>and having YYYY issues with it? what do you do??"
>
>Valerie
>(also nervous about having my neck this far out .... but if Fabricators
>would expand on this topic, then others would not have to speculate for
>them...)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Blomberg, Rainer (FL51)" <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
>10/06/2005 12:21 PM
>Please respond to TechNet E-Mail Forum; Please respond to "Blomberg,
>Rainer (FL51)"
>
>
>         To:     [log in to unmask]
>         cc:
>         Subject:        Re: [TN] New Old Topic
>
>
>Good question Franklin.
>It would be the same answer as how would they find the new, separate forum
>in the first place.
>Change the forum name to PCBTECHNET?
>Interesting tabulation.  What makes fabricators want to segregate
>themselves
>from the rest of the using industry?
>
> > Rainer G. Blomberg
> > Honeywell -Space Systems Clearwater
> > Staff Production Engineer
>(727) 539-5534
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Franklin Asbell
>Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:11 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [TN] New Old Topic
>
>The reason for suggesting a new forum was to enhance interaction between
>fabricators. The goal or intent is not to "separate" anything but to
>enhance
>cooperation and sharing of information between board makers.
>
> From my count, nearly all YES type votes were from the fabricators as well
>as assemblers and end users.
>
>There was only 1 NO type vote from a fabricator that I counted.
>
> From an objective view I have not see any justification or argument for
>not
>having a separate fabricators forum.
>
>So going back to the original suggestion, especially from those of you
>that
>find it a bad idea not to have another forum, how can we, how can you,
>increase the level of fabricators subscribing to TechNet.
>
>Franklin
>
>(ducking again to avoid chairs and books)
>
>
>
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