MIL-PRF-31032 has many of the same components as IPC-6012. However, the certify products to MIL-RPF-31032 you must be a qualified house on the Qualified Manufacturers Listing (QML). There are not plans to qualify shops outside the USA.
Jeffrey Bush
Director, Quality Assurance and Technical Support
VERMONT CIRCUITS INCORPORATED
76 Technology Drive - POB 1890
Brattleboro, Vermont 05302
Voice: 802.257.4571.21 Fax: 802.257.0011
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of "Sefika ÖZKAL"
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:59 AM
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Subject: [TN] MIL-PRT-31032 vs IPC-6012
Dear Technetters,
What are the differences between MIL-PRT-31032 and IPC-6012? Can I find a
document which is describing the differences between these two standards?
May pcbs built using IPC-6012 be acceptible by MIL-PRT-31032 standards?
Sefika
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Ball
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] New IPC email forum
Seems to me there is room for all. It's a big old world. I don't think too
many people would bail from this forum if a FAB forum was created. And if a
FAB forum would bring more people out, that'd be good.
I learned of this forum via the DesignerCouncil forum. For my profession,
which is board design and all that goes with it, this forum may be the best
resource I've come across, though more specific forums exist. It's even
useful for lawnmower repair! The diverse expertise of the participants (and
some of the puns) make it great.
But I don't bring up ECAD specific issues here. And I'm not interested in
knowing how to calibrate an Acme V-score machine (today, anyway), though I
don't mind receiving emails about it. If a FAB specific forum existed for
people who ONLY care about that today, we might find a lot of them in THIS
forum somewhere down the road.
If you want to get everybody together in the same place, the first thing
you have to do is get them all moving towards the center, right?
Maybe not. Just my thoughts on the subject...
-Chris
Brian Ellis
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E-Mail Forum; Please
respond to Brian Ellis
Has no one ever heard of concurrent engineering? If there were no
assemblers to give feedback to the fab guys and no fab guys to tell the
assemblers what they can or cannot do, then we would have no industry at
all. I'll go farther, the designers must be in the equation, AND the
development engineers, AND the purchasing managers. If we cannot all
talk with one voice or sing the same song, then we are wasting valuable
company funds. All these guys MUST talk with each other, all the time
and any schism is counter-productive. Even if we work in different
factories doing different jobs, our aim is to produce one single article
as economically as possible, while respecting the technical imperatives.
Splitting knowledge apart will not achieve this and, taking this to a
logical conclusion, we shall split the IPC into two or more separate
organisations, each believing they are holier than the others, with zero
dialogue.
Personally, I have been professionally working with printed circuitry
since 1955 (yes, 50 whole years!!!) and I have had deep experience in
all the aspects of the business from being a development engineer,
through designer and vendor of designing tools, director of a high-tech
PCB fab plant, assembler AND purchaser and I **KNOW** that you cannot
isolate any one aspect from the others. In fact, I'll go so far as to
say that most, possibly as much as 90%, of the problems encountered
within our industry are because of lack of communications between the
various factions who prefer to isolate themselves in an ivory tower and
hope the rest of the world bends round their ideas. So, in the name of
sanity and efficiency in our industry, do NOT split (rather, merge more
of the guys in the equation.
Brian
Franklin Asbell wrote:
> With a show of hands (yes, we can see you) how many out there would be
> interested in subscribing to an IPC email forum for pcb (rigid, flex,
> rigid-flex, hi-rel, mil, etc) fabrication topics.
>
> Franklin
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