He opened up one of Deac's links.
Dewey
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tempea, Ioan
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:47 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
How'd you get in?
Ioan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kane, Christopher
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:43 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>
> How do I get off of this forum???
>
> Christopher J Kane
> Mechanical Engineering
> Lockheed Martin Systems Integration
> 1801 State Route 17c Owego, NY 13827-3994 Telephone (607) 751-6213
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
> (AZ75)
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:37 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
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>
> So to you it's just icing on the cake.
> Dewey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Nutting
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:40 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>
> When your hair line in the front starts to get close to the hole in
> the back, that is called a fivehead not a forehead. The good Lord
> only made a few perfect heads and the rest he/she covered with hair.
> My head is more perfect each year.
>
> Not only is it ice hockey, but womens ice hockey. These girls (ages
> 18 to 50+) are amazing to watch. Can't get enough of it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deac Descoteaux
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:04 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>
> Gee! I used to cook in my younger days too.....short
> order............... I make my own sausages her in New England. I put
> only the best ingredients into my sausages....My hair is a good French
> Canadian 54 year old gray hair with a large forehead and a large
> circle in the back. Did you say ice hockey???????????????????? Now
> your talking!
>
> Enjoy the weekend!
>
> How are things at RC??? Busy?
>
> Deac
> Work phone: (603) 886-8711 ext.202
> Cell : (603) 557-7568
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:54 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>
> Yippee. I've been validated!!!! Nose grease, now there's a great
> image a Friday morning.
>
> I did work as a cook and dishwasher in a fine restaurant in my earlier
> years. You are correct. I am fond of the quote that those who enjoy
> sausage and legislation should not view their making. Or something
> like that.
>
> My hair is a good Norse blonde, a respectable amount left for a 46
> year old, though I am told the forehead is growing and that little
> circle in back is growing.
>
> A wife who plays ice hockey? Cool (no pun intended). Do you both
> have a "cross checking" account. Some days I just slay me........
>
> Doug Pauls
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> Phil Nutting
> <PNutting@KAISERS
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> Subject
> 09/09/2005 07:13 [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN]
Clean
> AM before cleaning
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> Doug's point about the gloves getting easily contaminated by nose
> grease is valid. I've watched people working in a "clean area" do
just that.
> Now carry that one step further... Been to a restaurant lately? What
> do you think the working environment is like in the kitchen? Just
> thinking about it is turning my stomach. To "protect" the customers
> from human> bodily goo one would have to wear some sort of NASA suit.
> I find that after several good ales or vodkas I have completely
> forgotten about this detail and start to enjoy my meal.
>
> Doug, you have hair left on your head? What is that like?
>
> Happy weekend. Can't wait for 4:30. Going to the wife's ice hockey
> tournament. Woohoo!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phillip Bavaro
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:59 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>
> If my memory serves me correctly, the blue nitrile gloves causes too
> much sweating of the hands, and we chose to supply anti-static PVC
> clean room gloves instead (ISO Class 3 Compatible, Sealed Bag).
>
> In reality, the operators in non-chemical applications typically
> prefer to wear the cotton gloves with fingercots on top of them for
> their comfort and dexterity.
>
> Fingerprints alone are a valid reason to wear gloves for post cleaned
> deliverable hardware, but engineering labs typically handle hardware
> without wearing gloves.
>
> For the ultimate in operator comfort, I have always liked the cotton
> knit stretch gloves with the ESD vinyl coating on the palm of the
> glove, but never actually implemented it due to the cost (although it
> has come down quite a bit over the years).
>
>
>
> "Stadem, Richard" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I happen to think that the blue nitrile gloves are best for handling
> pwb's and components.
> I do not know if they present any outgassing or chlorinating issues.
> I do know they will not snag on lead protrusions and other hardware,
> inadvertently causing dropped assemblies. White cotton gloves snag
> like crazy.
> However, the blue nitrile gloves cannot be used on boards that are
hot.
> They have no insulative properties.
> They tend to not absorb fluxes and chemicals, but they do get dirty
> and need to be thrown and replaced periodically.
> The blue nitrile gloves protect the operator's hands from chemical
> exposure. White cotton gloves retain chemicals and prevent evaporation
> from the operator's skin.
> The blue nitrile gloves are available in ESD-safe type. I don't think
> the white gloves are.
> For these reasons I prefer the blue nitrile gloves. But the operators
> prefer the white cotton gloves, as they are more comfortable than the
> blue nitrile, especially if you have hairy hands like mine. Too bad
> more of it does not grow on the top of my head.
> But then maybe thats why I don't come up with all of those
> hair-brained ideas like others I work with!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tempea, Ioan
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:38 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>
> Technos,
>
> the question is whether to wear or not to wear gloves on assemblies
> that will be washed. I am fully aware of the solderability problems
> that can occur without gloves, so let's stick strictly to the
> post-wash contamination.
>
> And in the same key, Doug was talking about not using white gloves
> that have chlorines due to bleaching. Which are the gloves to wear?
>
> Thank you,
> Ioan
>
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