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David Douthit <[log in to unmask]>
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Joe has yet to discover the older you get the farther away the floor is
(Law of Phyics!!).

David A. Douthit
Manager
LoCan LLC

Chris Ball wrote:

>34 and complaining about aging? Just wait, Joe. you ain't seen nuthin'
>yet...... ;-/
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>                       Joe Russeau
>                       <jrusseau@PRECISIONANALYST        To:   [log in to unmask]
>                       S.COM>                            cc:
>                       Sent by: TechNet                  Subject:    Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean
>                       <[log in to unmask]>                   before cleaning
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>                       09/09/2005 12:01 PM
>                       Please respond to TechNet
>                       E-Mail Forum; Please
>                       respond to Joe Russeau
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>I wish it were because of lighter fluid.  Some things in life you just have
>to accept.  Nonetheless,  this aging thing sucks!
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>Have a great weekend!
>
>Joe Russeau
>Process Analyst
>
>Precision Analytical Laboratory, Inc.
>4106 Cartwright Dr. Ste. A
>Kokomo, IN 46902
>
>P: 765-455-1993
>F: 765-455-1996
>E: [log in to unmask]
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Douglas O. Pauls" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
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>>I keep tellin' ya Joe, a little less lighter fluid on the charcoal and it
>>will grow back.........
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>>Doug Pauls
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>>             Joe Russeau
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>To
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>>             09/09/2005 10:19          Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN]
>>             AM                        Clean before cleaning
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>>             Please respond to
>>              TechNet E-Mail
>>                   Forum
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>>                Joe Russeau
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>>You guys are the lucky ones, at 34, I have NO hair.
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>>Joe Russeau
>>Process Analyst
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>>Precision Analytical Laboratory, Inc.
>>4106 Cartwright Dr. Ste. A
>>Kokomo, IN 46902
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>>P: 765-455-1993
>>F: 765-455-1996
>>E: [log in to unmask]
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Deac Descoteaux" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:03 AM
>>Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
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>>>Gee! I used to cook in my younger days too.....short
>>>
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>order...............
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>>I
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>>>make my own sausages her in New England. I put only the best
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>ingredients
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>>>into my sausages....My hair is a good French Canadian 54 year old gray
>>>
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>>hair
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>>>with a large forehead and a large circle in the back. Did you say ice
>>>hockey???????????????????? Now your talking!
>>>
>>>Enjoy the weekend!
>>>
>>>How are things at RC??? Busy?
>>>
>>>Deac
>>>Work phone: (603) 886-8711 ext.202
>>>Cell : (603) 557-7568
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls
>>>Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:54 AM
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>>>
>>>Yippee.  I've been validated!!!!  Nose grease, now there's a great
>>>
>>>
>image
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>>a
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>>>Friday morning.
>>>
>>>I did work as a cook and dishwasher in a fine restaurant in my earlier
>>>years.  You are correct.  I am fond of the quote that those who enjoy
>>>sausage and legislation should not view their making.  Or something
>>>
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>like
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>>>that.
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>>>My hair is a good Norse blonde, a respectable amount left for a 46 year
>>>old, though I am told the forehead is growing and that little circle in
>>>back is growing.
>>>
>>>A wife who plays ice hockey?  Cool (no pun intended).  Do you both have
>>>
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>a
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>>>"cross checking" account.  Some days I just slay me........
>>>
>>>Doug Pauls
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>>>             Phil Nutting
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>>To
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>>Subject
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>>>             09/09/2005 07:13          [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean
>>>             AM                        before cleaning
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>>>
>>>             Please respond to
>>>              TechNet E-Mail
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>>>Doug's point about the gloves getting easily contaminated by nose
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>grease
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>>>is valid.  I've watched people working in a "clean area" do just that.
>>>Now carry that one step further... Been to a restaurant lately?  What
>>>
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>do
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>>>you think the working environment is like in the kitchen?  Just
>>>
>>>
>thinking
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>>>about it is turning my stomach.  To "protect" the customers from human
>>>bodily goo one would have to wear some sort of NASA suit.  I find that
>>>after several good ales or vodkas I have completely forgotten about
>>>
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>this
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>>>detail and start to enjoy my meal.
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>>>Doug, you have hair left on your head?  What is that like?
>>>
>>>Happy weekend.  Can't wait for 4:30.  Going to the wife's ice hockey
>>>tournament. Woohoo!
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phillip Bavaro
>>>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:59 PM
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>>>
>>>If my memory serves me correctly, the blue nitrile gloves causes too
>>>much sweating of the hands, and we chose to supply anti-static PVC
>>>
>>>
>clean
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>>>room gloves instead (ISO Class 3 Compatible, Sealed Bag).
>>>
>>>In reality, the operators in non-chemical applications typically prefer
>>>to wear the cotton gloves with fingercots on top of them for their
>>>comfort and dexterity.
>>>
>>>Fingerprints alone are a valid reason to wear gloves for post cleaned
>>>deliverable hardware, but engineering labs typically handle hardware
>>>without wearing gloves.
>>>
>>>For the ultimate in operator comfort, I have always liked the cotton
>>>knit stretch gloves with the ESD vinyl coating on the palm of the
>>>
>>>
>glove,
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>>>but never actually implemented it due to the cost (although it has come
>>>down quite a bit over the years).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Stadem, Richard" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>I happen to think that the blue nitrile gloves are best for handling
>>>pwb's and components.
>>>I do not know if they present any outgassing or chlorinating issues.
>>>I do know they will not snag on lead protrusions and other hardware,
>>>inadvertently causing dropped assemblies. White cotton gloves snag like
>>>crazy.
>>>However, the blue nitrile gloves cannot be used on boards that are hot.
>>>They have no insulative properties.
>>>They tend to not absorb fluxes and chemicals, but they do get dirty and
>>>need to be thrown and replaced periodically.
>>>The blue nitrile gloves protect the operator's hands from chemical
>>>exposure. White cotton gloves retain chemicals and prevent evaporation
>>>from the operator's skin.
>>>The blue nitrile gloves are available in ESD-safe type. I don't think
>>>the white gloves are.
>>>For these reasons I prefer the blue nitrile gloves. But the operators
>>>prefer the white cotton gloves, as they are more comfortable than the
>>>blue nitrile, especially if you have hairy hands like mine. Too bad
>>>
>>>
>more
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>>>of it does not grow on the top of my head.
>>>But then maybe thats why I don't come up with all of those hair-brained
>>>ideas like others I work with!
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tempea, Ioan
>>>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:38 PM
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: [TN] Clean before cleaning
>>>
>>>Technos,
>>>
>>>the question is whether to wear or not to wear gloves on assemblies
>>>
>>>
>that
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>>>will be washed. I am fully aware of the solderability problems that can
>>>occur without gloves, so let's stick strictly to the post-wash
>>>contamination.
>>>
>>>And in the same key, Doug was talking about not using white gloves that
>>>have chlorines due to bleaching. Which are the gloves to wear?
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>Ioan
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