Hi Many Dave!
This is a good topic, because you have to ask if your self how good is
the paper in hand? I mean if you got the paper that says your car is
equipped with the smog equipment where did it come from? Direct from the
manufacturer, a manufacturer's authorized re-seller (dealer), another
distributor, a used car dealer, salesman, or private party??
And what will the smog station like??
Rick Smith
Senior Product/ Component Engineer
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From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MA/NY DDave
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:19 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] RoHS: Proof of Supplier Component Compliance
Hi Trimble-Roger, NIST-John, Dolby-ChrisNJames, IPC LF Listservers,
(Sorry I ran out of space acknowleding people)
Yes Roger, A Great Dialog,
<if I purchase a car in CA that must have CA emissions equipment, and
I have a document in hand that says it has such equipment, does due
diligence mean I have to inspect the car to verify it has said
equipment, get documents from each vendor stating their equipment does
what it is supposed to do, and check to make sure such equipment is
assembled properly and in good working order?>
In CA just like MA you can supply lots of proof from other sources that
the
government is "due diligent" in monitoring the situation with the new
and
used car dealers. I have an older vehicle and in MA most shops would
not
inspect me so I had to go to a shop with the proper equipment to test
emissions the old fashion external chemical way. Who verifies the
vehicle
on board computer diagnostics in newer cars is an unknown to me.
<So, if I have a vendor data sheet that says the part is Pb-free, and
RoHS compliant, and I have a COC from them to back up their claim, I
don't have enough data?>
NO, even though you have added things past Jeff's starting point, you
have
to pick up the hood and find out more. I hate to say it, since
technically
I hate the homogeneous term, you have to find out if they know and are
reporting anything about homogenous substances. When you can put this
stuff
in your files and can close them and do something else you are doing
good.
So the real question is, how much is enough for due diligence?? Doesn't
"due diligence" mean putting forth sufficient and *reasonable* effort to
achieve a desired end result? Can we put a value or measurement on "a
LOT"?
Yes, Roger you are correct and have said the same thing I have written
yet
in a different way.
Yes I think we can put a reasonable stopping point on "due diligence"
and I
am hoping that some of this work by IPC and IEC and hopefully CNELEC and
the EU TAC will make this happen.
Yours in Engineering, Dave
YiEngr, MA/NY DDave
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