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A-pun my word!

Brian

Whittaker, Dewey (AZ75) wrote:
> Thanks all of you. This will not go unpunished.
> Dewey
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Ball
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:21 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> Dewy love him? Sure we do.
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> I agree. Thanks for providing humor on this forum. It lightens up the
> day.
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> Thanks,
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> Bob Metcalf
> Circuit Solutions
> 949-709-2544
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:03 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> Dear Dewey,
> You are definitely the funniest guy on the forum. Thanks for the laughs.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
> (AZ75)
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:48 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> So no speaking without Dew-diligence or before it's Dew?
> DEWey
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:41 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> Oh.
> Sorry Werner.
> Going back to my old policy of new Technet e-mails before 7 am or before
> at least 2 Diet Dews.
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> Doug Pauls
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> Doug, Doug, Doug,
> It must be too early for you.  You missed the point of Werner's e-mail!
> Werner was making his comments about the IEC in contrast to the IPC.
> Bev
> RIM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls
> Sent: August 25, 2005 8:24 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> Good morning Werner,
> Brian's experiences always make for interesting reading.
>
> Maybe it is just from getting up way too early to take my daughter to
> volleyball practice, but your comment rubs me the wrong way this
> morning.
> I know that most IPC chairmen would love to increase participation from
> all levels of companies and are looking for ways to do so.  The IPC
> staff diligently explores alternatives to costly travel to meetings so
> that more can participate.  There have been increases in teleconferenes,
> netmeetings, videoconferences.  More review is done by e-mail.  As a
> member from a large company, we "dominate" because it is often we may
> have more resources, we may have made a better case for participation,
> or because or management sees the value in participation.
>
> In my view, participation is more limited by the fact that we are all
> 125% tasked (on a light day).  Is there anyone out there that has free
> time to devote anymore?
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> People can be very active participants in any IPC activity, regardless
> of company size or travel budget.  In fact, all you in Technet land have
> participated in my committees when I ask survey questions.  I am the
> vice chair on the solder mask committee and the committee working on a
> solder mask handbook.  The Technet archives have been data mined (it is
> SO nice to have intelligent co-ops students) for experiences on solder
> mask.
> Questions that get asked are topics that need to be covered.  All of the
> committee activities have home pages on the IPC web site.  Minutes from
> meetings, including suggestions from my favorite Canadian about hitting
> Hillman with a frozen beaver, drafts of documents, some of which contain
> Sven and Ole jokes, etc, are all there.
>
> ALL it takes, all it takes, to participate in an IPC committee (with a
> few
> exceptions) is a phone call or an e-mail to one of the committee chairs
> or to the IPC staff saying "I would like to be part of this work", and
> you can do so.  You can review drafts, participate in research, etc,
> without ever once travel to a meeting.  You want to particpate, by God
> we will find a way to work you in.  Let me give you an example.  A young
> lady who was once one of my co-op students, works for an EMS provider
> where travel funds are a little scarce at times.  She may not be able to
> attend the meetings, but she is willing to review drafts, participate in
> IC round robins, etc.
> She
> recognizes the educational value in participating and how it will make
> her a more valuable resource to her company.  Although, it could be just
> my sauve and debonair charm as a chairman (not a word, Whittaker).  Nah.
>
> I cannot begin to list how IPC involvement has made me valuable to my
> employers over the years.  It is an education in itself, and in todays
> world of electronic communication, the only real barriers to
> participation are time to devote and individual initiative.
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> You know, I will look over this response in about an hour or so, after a
> Diet Dew or two and wonder what the hell got me so riled up this
> morning......
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> Doug Pauls
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> Hi Brian,
> You are so right.
> It needs to be added, that participation is also very costly with
> meetings taking place all over the globe. This excludes small commpanies
> and consultants reinforcing what you said about domination by large
> companies.
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> Werner
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