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        Hi Ioan:
        I would say that, that board was not fabricated properly, it
should not delaminate. If you have access to a wave solder machine run a
bare board through it. The board should not delaminate neither.  Could
you place the transformer by hand? It would require less heat to reflow
the solder.
        Regards,
        Ramon

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tempea, Ioan
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:09 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Blistering of PCB at lead-free temperatures

Gentlemen,

thank you for the fast response.

Clarifications:
*       I am talking about delamination blisters. The board looks like
the surface of the outer layers is about 30% detached from the others
and only the vias are holding them together. Of course, there are
several independent blisters, not only one that big.
*       the profile is having a short (20 sec) soak at about 170C. I
actually need to soak it more, to lower the temp delta between the
transformer and the rest of the comps
*       I did not check what the Td is, but how will it impact
delamination? Prepreg burning off and detaching?

Regards,
Ioan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Tempea, Ioan
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:19 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Blistering of PCB at lead-free temperatures
> 
> 
> Hi Technos,
> 
> wanted to start a pilot run, but the first PCB that we soldered ended
up full of blisters when it came out of the oven. It is a 6 layers, full
ground and power planes, about 6"x7", not a high density one, pretty
light stuff on it, the toughest part is a transformer which needs a
little more heating. The profile peaks at 250C on the PCB itself and the
PCB is made out of FR4, Tg 170.
> 
> I said to myself that it must be humidity, so I baked 1 board, 8H @
125C, and passed it through the reflow again. Same blistering, almost to
the same extent. Then I took a totally different PCB that was hanging
around on my desk for about 3 months, reflowed it at 250C and got just a
tiny blister, probably due to humidity this time.
> 
> The questions I have are:
> 
> is 250C too much for a properly manufactured PCB?
> 
> If it's not the humidity what else could it be?
> 
> Any other test that I could do to get a better idea of the root cause?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ioan
> 
> 
> 
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