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Dewey,

I concur wholeheartedly with your comments about Doug and Dave. Unlike most,
I had the opportunity to work directly with Doug and to learn from him.  He
is an awesome individual both personally and professionally (Doug, don't let
this go to your head).  I remember when Doug use to drink regular Dew like
it was going out of style.  You could always tell when a deadline for IPC
was coming up because of Dougs Dew consumption, not to mention my testing
load always increased (yeah, thought I forgot about that).

Dave is also great to work with and his materials knowledge is awesome.  How
anyone can remeber so much information on the different processing materials
from both fabrication and assembly is beyond me.  I think Dave should
develop a materials Trivial Pursuit game.

Best Regards,

Joe Russeau

----- Original Message -----
From: "Whittaker, Dewey (AZ75)" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications


> Richard,
> Thank you for the compliment. The humor is my release and if it makes
> others laugh, that's even better. What we need not to lose sight of is
> Doug was correct in what he said. SIR Doug and Dave Hillman from
> Rockwell Collins have spent countless hours supporting the Industry, IPC
> and all of us. They and their Company needs to be commended on all the
> support they have given to date.
> More people and their companies should consider joining and supporting
> organizations like the IPC for the good of the Industry as a whole(PTH
> of course).
> Dewey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stadem, Richard [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:03 AM
> To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Whittaker, Dewey (AZ75)
> Subject: RE: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> Dear Dewey,
> You are definitely the funniest guy on the forum. Thanks for the laughs.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
> (AZ75)
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:48 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> So no speaking without Dew-diligence or before it's Dew?
> DEWey
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:41 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> Oh.
> Sorry Werner.
> Going back to my old policy of new Technet e-mails before 7 am or before
> at least 2 Diet Dews.
>
> Doug Pauls
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> Doug, Doug, Doug,
> It must be too early for you.  You missed the point of Werner's e-mail!
> Werner was making his comments about the IEC in contrast to the IPC.
> Bev
> RIM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls
> Sent: August 25, 2005 8:24 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications
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> Good morning Werner,
> Brian's experiences always make for interesting reading.
>
> Maybe it is just from getting up way too early to take my daughter to
> volleyball practice, but your comment rubs me the wrong way this
> morning.
> I know that most IPC chairmen would love to increase participation from
> all levels of companies and are looking for ways to do so.  The IPC
> staff diligently explores alternatives to costly travel to meetings so
> that more can participate.  There have been increases in teleconferenes,
> netmeetings, videoconferences.  More review is done by e-mail.  As a
> member from a large company, we "dominate" because it is often we may
> have more resources, we may have made a better case for participation,
> or because or management sees the value in participation.
>
> In my view, participation is more limited by the fact that we are all
> 125% tasked (on a light day).  Is there anyone out there that has free
> time to devote anymore?
>
> People can be very active participants in any IPC activity, regardless
> of company size or travel budget.  In fact, all you in Technet land have
> participated in my committees when I ask survey questions.  I am the
> vice chair on the solder mask committee and the committee working on a
> solder mask handbook.  The Technet archives have been data mined (it is
> SO nice to have intelligent co-ops students) for experiences on solder
> mask.
> Questions that get asked are topics that need to be covered.  All of the
> committee activities have home pages on the IPC web site.  Minutes from
> meetings, including suggestions from my favorite Canadian about hitting
> Hillman with a frozen beaver, drafts of documents, some of which contain
> Sven and Ole jokes, etc, are all there.
>
> ALL it takes, all it takes, to participate in an IPC committee (with a
> few
> exceptions) is a phone call or an e-mail to one of the committee chairs
> or to the IPC staff saying "I would like to be part of this work", and
> you can do so.  You can review drafts, participate in research, etc,
> without ever once travel to a meeting.  You want to particpate, by God
> we will find a way to work you in.  Let me give you an example.  A young
> lady who was once one of my co-op students, works for an EMS provider
> where travel funds are a little scarce at times.  She may not be able to
> attend the meetings, but she is willing to review drafts, participate in
> IC round robins, etc.
> She
> recognizes the educational value in participating and how it will make
> her a more valuable resource to her company.  Although, it could be just
> my sauve and debonair charm as a chairman (not a word, Whittaker).  Nah.
>
> I cannot begin to list how IPC involvement has made me valuable to my
> employers over the years.  It is an education in itself, and in todays
> world of electronic communication, the only real barriers to
> participation are time to devote and individual initiative.
>
> You know, I will look over this response in about an hour or so, after a
> Diet Dew or two and wonder what the hell got me so riled up this
> morning......
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> Doug Pauls
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> Hi Brian,
> You are so right.
> It needs to be added, that participation is also very costly with
> meetings taking place all over the globe. This excludes small commpanies
> and consultants reinforcing what you said about domination by large
> companies.
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> Werner
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