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One bite at the bug's get a headache.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
(AZ75)
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications


Glyko-to keep you cool
Metrio-to help you find the bus or subway in the morning
Sketo-to keep the bugs away
I'll take the first one, because with all that caffeine who needs a ride
and the bugs couldn't keep up to land on you anyway.
Dewey

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:17 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] IEC Specifications

Hey, Doug. You had better change your tipple! If you come out here, we
can give you a coffee that will REALLY wake you up, 49% caffeine, 49%
flavour and the rest water! It's made in 3 varieties, glyko, metrio and
sketo, to suit all tastes. In most places it's only about 20 or 25 US
cents/cup. A good kick-start for the day and MUCH cheaper than
Starbucks.

Best regards,

Brian

Douglas O. Pauls wrote:
> Good morning Werner,
> Brian's experiences always make for interesting reading.
>
> Maybe it is just from getting up way too early to take my daughter to
> volleyball practice, but your comment rubs me the wrong way this
morning.
> I know that most IPC chairmen would love to increase participation
> from all levels of companies and are looking for ways to do so.  The
> IPC staff diligently explores alternatives to costly travel to
> meetings so that more can participate.  There have been increases in
> teleconferenes, netmeetings, videoconferences.  More review is done by

> e-mail.  As a member from a large company, we "dominate" because it is

> often we may have more resources, we may have made a better case for
> participation, or because or management sees the value in
participation.
>
> In my view, participation is more limited by the fact that we are all
> 125% tasked (on a light day).  Is there anyone out there that has free

> time to devote anymore?
>
> People can be very active participants in any IPC activity, regardless

> of company size or travel budget.  In fact, all you in Technet land
> have participated in my committees when I ask survey questions.  I am
> the vice chair on the solder mask committee and the committee working
> on a solder mask handbook.  The Technet archives have been data mined
> (it is SO nice to have intelligent co-ops students) for experiences on
solder mask.
> Questions that get asked are topics that need to be covered.  All of
> the committee activities have home pages on the IPC web site.  Minutes

> from meetings, including suggestions from my favorite Canadian about
> hitting Hillman with a frozen beaver, drafts of documents, some of
> which contain Sven and Ole jokes, etc, are all there.
>
> ALL it takes, all it takes, to participate in an IPC committee (with a

> few
> exceptions) is a phone call or an e-mail to one of the committee
> chairs or to the IPC staff saying "I would like to be part of this
> work", and you can do so.  You can review drafts, participate in
> research, etc, without ever once travel to a meeting.  You want to
> particpate, by God we will find a way to work you in.  Let me give you

> an example.  A young lady who was once one of my co-op students, works

> for an EMS provider where travel funds are a little scarce at times.
> She may not be able to attend the meetings, but she is willing to
> review drafts, participate in IC round robins, etc.  She recognizes
> the educational value in participating and how it will make her a more

> valuable resource to her company.  Although, it could be just my sauve
and debonair charm as a chairman (not a word, Whittaker).  Nah.
>
> I cannot begin to list how IPC involvement has made me valuable to my
> employers over the years.  It is an education in itself, and in todays

> world of electronic communication, the only real barriers to
> participation are time to devote and individual initiative.
>
> You know, I will look over this response in about an hour or so, after

> a Diet Dew or two and wonder what the hell got me so riled up this
> morning......
>
> Doug Pauls
>
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> Hi Brian,
> You are so right.
> It needs to be added, that participation is also very costly with
> meetings taking place all over the globe. This excludes small
> commpanies and consultants reinforcing what you said about domination
> by large companies.
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> Werner
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