I'll add another weakness of the ISO/IEC system. Members of a
committee/WG must be nominated by the standardisation authority of the
country of residence. If the said authority does not approve of a
candidate, no matter how well qualified he may be, he is excluded. As a
general rule, most countries will nominate only one member to a
committee. That means that frequently, the person nominated will be the
employee of a large company that pays the most money towards the running
of the national standardisation authority, mostly in the private sector,
rather than the guy who has the best technical knowledge from a smaller
company. I could cite chapter and verse on this problem concerning
several subjects: it is not merely theoretical. I have even seen one
case of a nominee being rejected because of pressure applied by a large
multinational which had opposing commercial interests (as it happened,
the TC folded up at the three-month rule stage, because said
multinational intransigently refused point-blank to accept the draft).
No names, no pack drill.
The point is that ISO/IEC do not necessarily have the most suitably
qualified persons on their committees. This is in opposition to the IPC
system, where individuals can join committees informally. This may mean
some dead wood, but the important points are that the right guys are
there and the dead wood becomes very live, after a short time, from
listening to them.
Brian
Graham Naisbitt wrote:
> Hi Techies
>
> As a member of IEC TC91 WG3 (all under Dieters tutelage) and following
> Brian's message, permit me to clarify the situation of standards adoption as
> I understand:
>
> If, God forbid, the end product from an electronics manufacturer was found
> responsible for a failure that resulted in a law suite, then that
> manufacturer would be held blameless had they properly used/employed the
> prevailing National Standard - industry norms don't count as National
> Standards.
>
> Under EU law, ANY IEC or ISO Standard shall, automatically, take precedence
> over, or replace, the then prevailing National Standard of the country
> concerned.
>
> Naturally all countries who are signed-up to WTO are encouraged to
> participate and vote on new offerings made by the many and various TC's
> (Technical Committees) and their WG's (Working Groups).
>
> As with IPC, there are various voting stages, and each take time to arrive
> at consensus, ergo J-STD 004.
>
> As with IPC, the standards are reviewed for renewal or update on a 5 year
> cycle. In respect to lead-free, the cycle period is being reduced - for a
> few documents to my knowledge - to a 2 year period.
>
> IPC certainly benefits from a far greater user input and are able, for
> whatever reason, to obtain good research data faster than the IEC or ISO.
>
> All of which might be considered glacial flow, to quote Werners comment, but
> maybe global warming is speeding-up the outpourings.....there is certainly
> enough hot air being generated!
>
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> On 22/8/05 14:15, "Richard Kraszewski" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>Does anyone know the numbers for the European IEC counterparts of IPC
>>J-Std-001 & 002?
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