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Yes it would include all white goods - fridges, u-wave, washing

machines, tumble driers etc, etc 



-----Original Message-----

From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Leo Higgins

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:08 PM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [LF] WEEE & RoHS: EU takes legal action against 8 member

states, including...



I would not be surprised if their "electronic waste" includes the mass

of entire washing machines, microwave ovens, and refrigerators, etc.,

not just the electronic works.  But, I have not read the e-waste

definition.





Best regards,

Leo



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-----Original Message-----

From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:29 AM

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Subject: Re: WEEE & RoHS: EU takes legal action against 8 member states,

includin...





Interesting reading. In the preamble it says:



"Each EU citizen currently produces around 17-20 kg of e-waste per year.

"



I believe I am pretty average and I produce nowhere near 17- 20Kg of

electronic waste per year.  



Who created these numbers? What was on their agenda?



Are Europeans really this wasteful on average? Are they that fickle? or

are the products not lasting? If the latter, will it get better with

lead-free? 



In each case my answer is "I don't think so"



Another question: Are infants included in the citizen count?  



I may be wrong but I find it difficult to believe unless they average

huge electronic systems into the mix and give equal weight to everyone.

Such systems can be much more easily recycled. 



Remember that that even if the numbers were true, the percentage of lead

in solder is minuscule and all scientific evidence now in shows that

even if it



unfortunately makes its way to a landfill, there will not be any

appreciable



leeching. 



Winston Churchill said it well when he observed : "A lie travels around

the world before the truth can get its boots on" 



A couple of good books to read are: 



How to Lie with Statistics by Darrell Huff



The Death of Common Sense by Philip Howard



Peace,

Joe



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