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Bill

Have you considered V-scoring your panels as a way of minimizing waste. Most shops have this capability. after assembly you break the boards out of the subpanel along the V-score line.

Best regards

Lee

J. Lee Parker, Ph.D.
JLP Consultants LLC
804 779 3389
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  From: Brooks,Bill<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [TN] Standard panel size?...


  Thanks for responding Lee... 
   
  After doing some investigation... I'm thinking a 8X10 assembly panel would
  work well for our assembly folks and still be dividable into a 18X24 or
  12X18 panel without difficulty... 
  One shop recommended 8.2 X 11.2 as the maximum assembly panel so it gave
  them room to put a .100 in router bit down the center and ¾ in. all round
  the perimeter... another wants .400 in between the boards... still another
  has many more standard panel sizes to work from and sees no problem with
  many different configurations... it's a bit 'non-standard' if you ask me...
  but that's what makes the challenge interesting... I'm wondering what other
  folks are using for their standard assembly panels...
  :-)
   
  Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
  PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
  Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
  Datron World Communications, Inc.
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Lee parker [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:20 PM
  To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Brooks,Bill
  Subject: Re: [TN] Standard panel size?...
   
  Bill
   
  18x24 is by far the most popular panel size used in the industry. Most
  Chinese shops, however, often tailor the panel size to the board or subpanel
  to optimize panel utilization. I suggest if you are using a Chinese shop you
  consult with them and take advantage of this benefit. I worked in the AT&T
  Richmond shop from the day it opened till it was shut down and we never
  considered multiple sizes to be manageable.  After visiting many of the
  shops in China, I have come to realize that not all knowledge resides in
  North America.
   
  Best regards
   
  LeeJ. Lee Parker, Ph.D.
  JLP Consultants LLC
  804 779 3389  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brooks,Bill <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>  
  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>  
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:45 PM
  Subject: [TN] Standard panel size?...
   
  Hi TechNet...

  We are re-evaluating our board assembly panel sizes and want to get the best
  yields from our vendor's manufacturing panels when we select the final size
  of our 'standard' assembly panel...

  What is your PCB manufacturing 'standard' panel size for glass/epoxy type
  materials??? Some PCB vendors tell me they have a working panel size of
  18x24 inches... what do you use? And why?

  Thanks in advance for your help...

  Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
  PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
  Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
  Datron World Communications, Inc.
  _______________________________________
  San Diego Chapter of the IPC Designers Council
  Communications Officer, Web Manager
  http://dcchapters.ipc.org/SanDiego/<http://dcchapters.ipc.org/SanDiego/> <http://dcchapters.ipc.org/SanDiego/<http://dcchapters.ipc.org/SanDiego/>> 
  http://pcbwizards.com<http://pcbwizards.com/> <http://pcbwizards.com<http://pcbwizards.com/>> 

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