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Question: What will kill most people quickest, Lead poisoning from
electronics or flooding due to global warming as a result of processing at
higher temperatures?
Just a thought to see which is the lesser of two evils.
Regarding "keeping the faith" - I'd rather not fix something which isn't
broken too.

Regards,
Phil.
N.B. This is my personal opinion.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tempea, Ioan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 15 June 2005 21:27
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?


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Hi Joe,

it is clinically proven that lead poisoning will attack hearing and cause a
"heavy temper". Beethoven turned deaf and had a hard time containing his
wild moods. Probably his liver and lungs finished him off, but I think the
high level of lead exacerbated his creativity. Now I wonder what caused
Bach's blindness ;o)

Anyways, I totally agree that we as human beings should have started the
desintoxication by seriously revising all usage of bullets, green or not.
And I still hope there is something deeper than we can see in the lead-free
initiative, and not only an ill targeted propaganda.

And keep the faith, with this new trend, we will shortly manage to totally
eradicate pains like the "black pad", tin whiskers, etc. and figure out
reliability of SAC alloys. Maybe we will even get the supply chain people to
recognize that lead-free is not for the manufacturing folks only.

Regards,
Ioan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:49 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?
>

> Hi Ioan,
>

> Lead did not kill Beethoven.
>

> However, lead has killed millions in its most toxic form (i.e. at the end
of
> a cartridge filled with gunpower) On that matter, there is great irony in
the
> military switching to "environmentally friendly" bullets.
>

> Beethoven apparently had high toxic levels by today's standards by recent
> examination of some of his hair but literature suggests pneumonia and
cirrhosis
> of the liver as the cause of death.
>

> He lived a relatively long time (57 years) by the standards of the day.
Most
> folks did not live much into their 40s. There were a great many
untreatable
> diseases and hazardous jobs taking people out of life early.
>

> Now how did he get lead into his system? Possibly from wine. Lead acetate
> (AKA- lead sugar) was used to sweeten wine for a period of time until
clues of
> its effect were noted. Lead acetate is the culprit in paint and it is what
makes
> lead paint interesting to kids.
>

> It is likely that he drank wine. His father was reportedly an alcoholic
and
> there is evidence of it being a potentially inheritable predisposition.
>

> Now was the cirrhosis brought on by lead? or the wine?
>

> Literature states that in adults lead can increase blood pressure and
cause
> fertility problems, nerve disorders, muscle and joint pain, irritability,
and
> memory or concentration problems but no mention of cirrhosis. It may be
> possible however, that the liver condition weakened him and opened the
door to
> pnumonia.
>

> Kind regards,
> Joe
>

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