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I don't know, with what the Democratic Party was able to come up with, those
look like pretty appealing candidates to me and PT didn't have to beat the
Bush to find them.
Dewey

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brooks,Bill
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:45 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?

P.T. Barnum: "There's a sucker born every minute". Mr. Barnum found a way to
entice folks into parting with their hard-earned money - and their common
sense - for a glimpse at the elephant woman and the two-headed cow and the
amazing rubber man.


Nothing has changed...


Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 Datron World Communications,
Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Kozlyk [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; 'Brooks,Bill'
Subject: RE: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?

Good Point !!!

Sort of like the $$millions invested in replacing PC's/software in
preparation for Y2K !!!!

I went to one investing seminar & the idiot there, said everything
electronic i.e. toasters, microwaves, would stop running on Jan 1, 2000.....

Regards
TDK




-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brooks,Bill
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:35 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?


This is an interesting thread.

It completely floors me that we tend to treat the symptoms rather than treat
the disease in this country... Why we don't go back to the root of the
problem or to the motivation behind the solution completely evades my
reasoning ability...

As far as I know, Tin/lead solder has been in use for a very, very long
time... with no documented ill effects. There is not one shred of evidence
that I have seen that has indicated the connection between electronics
products being put in land fills and lead poisoning or disease of fish,
fowl, animal or man... yet we are running headlong investing in a soldering
process that is absolutely worse than tin/lead soldering...much less
reliable, more costly, and for what?

Where is the hard evidence that this is needed or even wise? It is like you
said... the 'emperor's new clothes' syndrome....

I think some folks are in for a rude awakening...

Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 Datron World Communications,
Inc. _______________________________________
San Diego Chapter of the IPC Designers Council Communications Officer, Web
Manager http://dcchapters.ipc.org/SanDiego/
http://pcbwizards.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Collins [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:42 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?

I'm guessing Ramon has already been affected, I know we have, and are in
similar industries.  Prices seem to be climbing for Pb materials - as can be
predicted by the reality of decreased volume production.  And, more
importantly, component finishes are being changes - some times with
different part numbers, some times with notification as bogus as a "pb free"
sticker stuck on the side of the reel of parts.

Ah well.  Buy the ticket, take the ride.  Next thing they'll be banning
copper...

regards,

Graham Collins
Process Engineer,
L-3 Communications Electronic Systems Inc.
Halifax
(902) 873-2000 ext 6215

>>> [log in to unmask] 06/15/05 10:18AM >>>
Hi Ramon,
it is that kind of thinking that gets us into trouble. Just because you are
not exporting to the EU, or because your part of the industry is exempt,
does NOT mean that you are not affected--YOU WILL BE AFFECTED. that is
because, you will not be able to buy SnPb-parts.

Werner

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