Dale,
Just one thing about what you said: "long-term exposure to elements we
see as harmful". Lead IS harmful in long term AND short term exposure,
especially for children under five. The point is that if electronic
circuit packs are responsibly recycled and/or disposed of in well run
landfills there is no issue.
As someone on this forum stated a few months ago, one of the best
environmental things we ever did was ban tetraethyl lead and one of the
worst may be banning leaded solder. Now the latter part of that is
somewhat of an exaggeration, but it does make a good point.
Bev
RIM
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dale Ritzen
Sent: June 15, 2005 8:45 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?
Ramon,
Thanks for the insight into who gets hurt and who doesn't in this future
scenario. The crazy thing is that we now have states on both coasts
jumping
on the bandwagon trying to implement some sort of lead-free legislation,
as
well as other parts of the world (notably Japan and now China - where a
lot
of the world's poisoned detritus ends up anyway). It is unfortunate that
good, sound scientific data and corroborating evidence has taken a back
seat
to anecdotal, self-serving "evidence" based on "junk science" (in some
cases) to support this environmental quest. If we're going to do
something
to save our home planet, then let's do it based on unbiased studies of
the
true effects of long-term exposure to the elements we see as harmful.
In essence, what it all distills down to is who is going to make the
most
$$$ from the fallout of this change and who will derive the most
political
gain by forcing this type of massive change on the world... It always
comes
down to money and power in this type of world-wide movement. It's been
happening since before the pyramids were built... and will continue well
after all of us are lead-free dust...
That being said, I think we all owe Steve a debt of gratitude for
offering
us a chance to read a really good piece on the whole issue - regardless
of
the length - as it does pull together a LOT of the things discussed here
and
in the IPC lead-free threads. Thanks Steve!
My comments again - not my employer's,
Dale Ritzen, CQA
Quality Manager
Austin Manufacturing Services
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Dehoyos, Ramon
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 7:09 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?
Hi Steve:
Europeans are going to pay the bigger price since this change is
imposed on their land. Some companies that export to Europe will be
affected. Companies that export to other places and produce for internal
consumption should not be affected at all. Steve thanks for bringing
this
good report to light. In the past excerpts of this article have been
posted,
yes it takes a while to read it but it is good to know what scientist
have
proven and it is known.
Thanks,
Ramon
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Stephen Gregory
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:17 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?
I was kind of suprised that there was only one private response
to my post about this...I guess we all are sheep.
Let's all of us jump off the cliff, and say in the end; "We did what
we were supposed to..."
Then live with it all...
Kind regards,
-Steve Gregory-
Senior Process Engineer
LaBarge Incorporated
Tulsa, Oklahoma
(918) 459-2285
(918) 459-2350 FAX
Stephen R Gregory
(Tulsa) To: [log in to unmask]
cc:
06/14/2005 08:38 Subject: [TN] Lead-Free,
Why?
AM
Mornin' Everyone!
Yesterday I had one of our test technicians come to me and
ask if I knew of any good reference articles about the pro's and
cons of Lead-free solders.
He's doing a assignment in his college class about manufacturing
processes. I first went on my rant about how mis-guided this whole
thing is, and then told him that I was sure I could find him some good
references.
I did a search and found one that I had never seen before, and after
reading it, I think it's the best one I've read. Go to:
http://www.cepelec.com/iso_album/leadfreehmiller.pdf
It's 53-pages, and very, very good!
Kind regards,
-Steve Gregory-
Senior Process Engineer
LaBarge Incorporated
Tulsa, Oklahoma
(918) 459-2285
(918) 459-2350 FAX
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