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You too Anthony!

Jason Gregory
Manufacturing Engineer
Innova Electronics
(281)653-5593
(281)653-5594 fax
(281)212-0844 cell
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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Anthony Gorga
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:47 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?


THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Terry Kozlyk
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:47 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?


Here we go again...guys......

This has resorted to General Discussion type questions.......

Go offline & stop clogging up the e-mails.....

TDK




-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jason Gregory
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:41 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?


Bev,

it seems you are a proponent of the legislation. When is the ban on lead
batteries going to occur?? I throw away WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more batteries
than I do PCBs.

Jason Gregory
Manufacturing Engineer
Innova Electronics
(281)653-5593
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(281)212-0844 cell
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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Bev Christian
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:22 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?


Richard,
Toxic to whom?  If you are talking people, silver of course is not as
toxic or my Grammie would have died before 89 from eating with
silver-plated utensils.  If you are talking single-celled aquatic
organisms, well that is another matter.  We should also looked at what
it takes to extract a kilo or lead vs. a kilo of silver in terms of
energy, chemicals used, etc., etc. Bev RIM

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard
Sent: June 15, 2005 11:17 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?

Shhhh...don't give them ideas, Graham.
Along the same line, isn't silver just as toxic, if not worse? Or am I
wrong? But we need to build everything with silver added to the solder
paste, the board finish, and the component finish, albeit a smaller
percentage. And because the lead-free, but silver-bearing consumer
devices will supposedly have a lower reliability factor, we will
actually be dumping more of the lead-free stuff into the landfills. It
will just cost us more to manufacture it. And of course, with a cost
increase in materials. That cost increase is not going to be absorbed by
the vendor and manufacturer, it will be passed on to the consumer. So we
will be dumping much more into the landfills, and will pay more for the
privelege. Right?

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Collins
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:42 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-Free, Why?

I'm guessing Ramon has already been affected, I know we have, and are in
similar industries.  Prices seem to be climbing for Pb materials - as
can be predicted by the reality of decreased volume production.  And,
more importantly, component finishes are being changes - some times with
different part numbers, some times with notification as bogus as a "pb
free" sticker stuck on the side of the reel of parts.

Ah well.  Buy the ticket, take the ride.  Next thing they'll be banning
copper...

regards,

Graham Collins
Process Engineer,
L-3 Communications Electronic Systems Inc.
Halifax
(902) 873-2000 ext 6215

>>> [log in to unmask] 06/15/05 10:18AM >>>
Hi Ramon,
it is that kind of thinking that gets us into trouble. Just because you
are not exporting to the EU, or because your part of the industry is
exempt, does NOT mean that you are not affected--YOU WILL BE AFFECTED.
that is because, you will not be able to buy SnPb-parts.

Werner

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