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Not to mention all the internal approvals and potential testing that has
to be done.

And where did the $1.00 number come from?  Seems a bit on the small
side, even for Asia.

Regards,
Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Blair K. Hogg
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:14 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] SMOBC question...

Our products are approved by UL, FM, CSA, MSHA, etc. With every change,
I have to resubmit to these agencies at a few thousand dollars each to
maintain the approvals.

Blair

>>> [log in to unmask] 05/18/05 07:58PM >>>
curious .. why does it cost "tens of thousands of dollars" to "roll the
revision" , In Asia it costs about $ 1.00. Could that be the reason why
most of the high volume business moved to Asia ?

Wolfgang



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Grant" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] SMOBC question...


> That "roll the revision" complaint is valid for the designer.  Even in

> the non-Military realm, it cost tens of thousands of dollars to get 
> product #XXX-revision X qualified with customer A, and they only do 
> qualifications within certain windows of opportunity.  Changing a 
> revision of a drawing often means requalifying, and if the window is 
> closed, loss of sales because the product is no longer qualified, 
> which could mean losses of millions of dollars...  Whew!  Who'd of 
> thought that just changing a little thing would cost so much.  It's 
> pretty frustrating and makes a guy want to just slap someone!
>
> Ryan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Gregory
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:13 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] SMOBC question...
>
> Jack,
>
> I wish there were designers like you at the customers we deal 
> with...and sometimes (to make the communication problem even worse), a

> design is not our customers design, but something they have 
> outsourced.
>
> But even if you do get to communicate with the actual designer, and 
> then find out that a note on the drawing is pretty meaningless, and 
> makes the fab that much harder to build, many times I have heard; 
> "Well, if we remove the note from the drawing, that'll mean we'll have

> to roll the revision on the drawing, and that's just too much 
> trouble..."
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -Steve Gregory-
> Senior Process Engineer
> LaBarge Incorporated
> Tulsa, Oklahoma
> (918) 459-2285
> (918) 459-2350 FAX
>
>

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