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Why not do a cross section? I think this will afford many other information.
Maybe is the solderability problem of the leads; 240 degree maybe not enough for the wave soldering, do you know the exactly temp of solder joints? also how about the thickness of the board ?
The gold maybe is another reason, too thin or too thicker will cause the similar problem.
Sometimes we can find the  gold layer left in the solder joint without enough heat.
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> sounds might be insufficient heat.  The ground may sink more heat than the
> other pin upon reflow.  either it is a lousy design or you might want to
> change profile to get complete reflow of the ground pin....Large board?
> make sure you do not over reflow the other components if you want to put
> more heat.... (someone may not do a DFM well)...
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> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Burke
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> What is over the top of the nickel??
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> You can't be soldering straight to nickel.............it will be oxidised.
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> John
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> Board finish is Cu with OSP. The cracks only show up on the ground pins and
> not the signal pin. I'd only get an electrical fail if the center joint
> cracked completely.
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> Thanks,
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> Hi Cheryl,
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> Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to exist. Particularly with hairline cracks
> where electrical contact could be present. What is the finish on your
> boards?
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> I have a large lot of circuit boards where about 20% have small, hairline
> solder fractures around some wave soldered PTH connector joints. We're
> working on root cause analysis to prevent it from happening and repairing
> the boards which have failed inspection. But, we're tying to figure out
> what to do with the boards that have passed the inspection but may be at
> risk. Quick and dirty tests have been unable to create fractures on these
> joints and they pass visual criteria. Are there any quantitative tests
> that could be performed on a sample to verify solder joint integrity? We
> don't hae any historical data for comparison.
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> Thanks! Cheryl
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