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Prolly just a piece of Pi...goes good with all of the coffee.  8^)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brooks,Bill [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:03 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: [DC] How would you quote this board?
>
> Na... that's what happens when you multiply the hours required by Pi.
> (3.14159...)
>
> LOL
> (just kidding of course)
>
> Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
> PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
> Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
> Datron World Communications, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Murphy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] How would you quote this board?
>
> All those decimals... must be that floating point processor again :-)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Handley, William
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] How would you quote this board?
>
> Sight unseen My formulas guess would be:
> 1071.4285714285714285714285714286 hours
> (I've added time in there for coffee and other bodily functions.)
>
>
> Bill Handley CID+
> Sr. CAD eng.
> Intel Corp.
> Chandler, Az 85226
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gary
> Crowell
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:24 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [DC] How would you quote this board?
>
> Since we are a 'captive shop' here at Micron, we have only a very shaky
> frame of reference with which to judge how our work compares with other
> layout designers.  One of our designers was worried that we (and
> himself, specifically) might be falling behind what might be considered
> 'standard' in the industry.  I was hoping some of you might respond with
> the man-hour estimate you might quote for the following board:
>
> 2800 components; top & bot placement allowed, few placement restrictions
> ~20,000 pads/pins, 95% SMT
> Usable area: 130 in2
> Routing layers: 8 internal routing, top&bottom
> Plane layers: 10 power/gnd planes; 6 voltages distributed on split
> planes
> Trace/space: 4/6 mil
> Via drill/pad: 10/20 mil
> 4200 nets; ~80% involve matched lengths and/or differential routing
> Major components: 1020 ball 1mm BGA, 1508 ball 1mm BGA, 1072 ball 1.27mm
> BGA, 2x SODIMM sockets, 12 HD connectors
> All digital; no analog
>
> A full-feature SPECCTRA router is available.
>
>
> Thanks
> Gary Crowell CID
> Micron Technology
>
>
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