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R Sedlak <[log in to unmask]>
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I heard about a program on the Discovery Channel called "Myth Busters"....
Now, Steve, leave that line alone, I know where your mind is going with it...

We need them on Technet....
There is no methanol in modern antifreeze...
It has been used, but it evaporates too fast, and can actually boil when the engine gets warm....

Go with concentration as the reason for these strange effects...

Rudy Sedlak
RD Chemical Company

Precision Analytical Lab <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
It has to do with the total number of particles in solution. In this case,
the smaller the number, the faster it freezes..and vice versa. I begin with
the same weight of material, 10 grams, but I have to take each formula
weight into account as well.

Popsicles also have other ingredients, such as flavorings, etc. Anti-freeze
has methanol along with the glycol to help lower it's freezing point.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Bill Kasprzak
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Answer to Friday's question


I disagree.

Why do Popsicle's stay frozen in my freezer while the anti freeze in my
car is protects my car to 20 below F.

Certainly my freezer doesn't go to 30 below F.

Now I know why I'll get a bloody nose.

Bill Kasprzak
Moog Inc
Process Engineer, Electronic Assembly



Precision Analytical Lab
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Alright,

First of all, that much sucrose or calcium chloride will not completely
dissolve in that little of DI water. So, the original question was a tad
bit on the devious side.

However, if you did use enough DI water to completely dissolve each of
those
materials, they will begin to freeze in this order: First to begin
freezing
is the ethylene glycol (antifreeze), second will be the calcium chloride
(Indiana's road salt), and last is the sucrose (sugar).

Happy Friday!

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Graham Naisbitt
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Friday question


Shawn

You are what we call over here, a real stinker! Its Friday and I am not
less
than 5 hours ahead of all you guys and now I will have to spend the entire
week-end wondering about the true answer.

My shot will be Calcium Chloride time because of the De-ionised water,
then
sucrose unless the water is hot, then the diluted anti-freeze. I haven't a
clue as to why, just gut feeling.
--
Regards Graham Naisbitt

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On 18/3/05 1:38 pm, "Precision Analytical Lab"
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> This one's real fun. It's sure to make blood shoot out your nose.
>
> Which of these 3 solutions will freeze first, second, and third and WHY
will
> they freeze in that order????
>
> 1) 10 grams of Calcium Chloride (road salt) dissolved in 20 mL of DI
water.
>
> 2) 10 grams of Sucrose (table sugar) dissolved in 20 mL of DI Water.
>
> 3) 10 grams of Ethylene Glycol (antifreeze) dissolved in 20 mL of DI
water.
>
>
> Shawn Parson
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> Precision Analytical Laboratory
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