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Leo Higgins <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:33:37 -0800
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........wow.........enough with the "wheelie bin"


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Leo

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-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of James, Chris
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Wheelie Bin and Pre/Post RoHS compliant date.



Dave - you are muddling two similar words but which have different
meaning:

Practicable (as in the UK text) means - capable of being carried out or
put into effect

Practical (the word you quoted below) means:
concerned with actual facts and experience, not theory;
sensible or useful, and likely to be effective;
plain, functional, and suitable for everyday use

Regards,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MA/NY DDave
Sent: 29 March 2005 17:30
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Wheelie Bin and Pre/Post RoHS compliant date.

Hi Kay, IPC LF Listservers,

Thanks Kay, When reading the word "practical" in the UK (GB) wording
it does seem to be a bit more soft than "exceptional cases" which is
in the Directive.

So I can see where marking the product, at the top level where it is
humanly readable is the best approach.

The smallest size of this symbol that is still humanly readable by
most of the population should end up being specified someplace.


Yours in Engineering, Dave
Y i Engr, MA/NY DDave

<========== Start of Kay's note ========>

Hi Dave
I dont have a particular opinion - but in this case it seems the
Commission feels that the text of point 2 of the EN (european) standard
is not in line with the Directive requirements.
Kay
-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MA/NY DDave
Sent: 25 March 2005 04:36
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Wheelie Bin and Pre/Post RoHS compliant date.


Hi Kay, Chris, Dan, , , IPC LF Listservers,

Kay, The UK's Point 2 that you refer to should be a mirror of WEEE and
should come from WEEE Article 10 $3 "exceptional cases". I am thinking
of small watches, tiny thermometers, .

Do you see that the UK's rules, as presently stated, have been too easy
for the manufacturers (in member state  producers) to ignore the
"exceptional cases" wording in the WEEE Directive.

Yours in Engineering, Dave
Y i Engr, MA/NY DDave

<The UK standard is published but point (2) is actually under challenge.
Best to mark the product itself.  Kay> <


<=== part of Chris's note ===>

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James, Chris
Sent: 24 March 2005 09:15
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Wheelie Bin and Pre/Post RoHS compliant date.

The appliance - the end product used by the consumer.

UK draft regs say:

Information for users

32.-(1) Each producer shall mark electrical and electronic equipment
which he places on the market on or after 13th August 2005 with the
symbol in Schedule 5.

(2) Where it is not practicable for a producer to mark a product as set
out in paragraph (1), the

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