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"Kallin, Dan" <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:01:23 -0500
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Here is an excellent document which has a pretty specific definition of
"Putting on the Market" see page 18...........
This is often called the blue book.  The WEEE and RoHS are not directly
new approach directives, but I have seen references to this
interpretation in, for example, the UK Guidance.

http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/legislation/guide/docum
ent/1999_1282_en.pdf


Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Blair K. Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:27 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Marking of WEEE / EN 50419


Please define "placed on the market". Wouldn't this be nearly equivalent
to the manufacture date? What I mean is that when a product completes
its manufacturing cycle, and is now a finished good available for sale,
isn't that equivalent to being "placed on the market"? The directive
can't mean the date it is actually sold, now can it? That would be a
nightmare to comply with (not that anything else associated with this
isn't).

Blair

>>> [log in to unmask] 03/29/05 09:51AM >>>
Please folks read the directives  

Absolutely nowhere in either of these directives is any requirement to
mark the manufacture date.

The date marking requirement is to indicate that the product was placed
on the market after Aug 13, 2005, not that it was manufactured after
this date.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of ZQ Li
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:36 AM
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: [LF] Marking of WEEE / EN 50419


Chris,

Many thanks for your sharing the information.

What is the real benefit to put the wheelie bin symbol together with
manufacture date before 13 August, 2005?  Should we bother to do it??

Regards,

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James, Chris
Sent: Tuesday, 29 March, 2005 05:10 PM
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: [LF] Marking of WEEE / EN 50419

You are truly better to get yourself a copy of EN28601 or BS7151 or
ISO8601 (all equivalent) as there is too much to explain here.

The basic standard format in the standard for calendar DATE is:

CCYYMMDD format where C=1000s&100s years, Y=10s&1s years, M=months,
D=days

So today 29 March 2005 in ISO speak is

20050329

Or in what is called extended format:
2005-03-29


There are other methods using year and week etc. but as said above you
really need to see the standard to fully understand it all.

After reading it you can't but feel the committee who devised the system
set out to re-invent the wheel.......... Now there is an idea, Brussels
should define "round things"..............

Regards,
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MA/NY DDave
Sent: 29 March 2005 06:12
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: [LF] Marking of WEEE / EN 50419

Hi Ray Li, IPC LF Listservers,

Ray, I do not know the answer.
I do not have this 28601 EU standard in my possession.

I am hoping that someone else on this list does have it
to confirm, correct, or add to my note and help with
your good question.

Yours in Engineering, Dave
Y i Engr, MA/NY DDave

<------- Start of Ray Li's note ------->
<Dave,
<Did you mean the acceptable uncoded text in accordance with
<EN 28601 is as below?

28.03.05
28.03.2005
28/03/05

<Does the document specify any typeface and/or minimum font size?
<
<Thanks,
<
<Raymond

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MA/NY DDave
Sent: Tuesday, 29 March, 2005 03:51 AM
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: [LF] Marking of WEEE / EN 50419

Hi Chris and Any IPC LF Listserver,

Well I found EN 28601 on a few sites BSI, AFNOR.

Since I don't have this document what does it specify for an
ISO i.e EU approved date for say today March 28, 2005.
Some guesses if one sticks with numbers and symbols.


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