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Stephen Gregory <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi JaMi!

Theirs...

-Steve-



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Steve,

Your customer probably has some concerns with variation in the specific
impedances,
which is why he is asking about the "varying dielectric thicknesses".

Why are you showing so many individual "dielectric" segments in your
diagram?

Surely they can't all be made of prepreg with no cores anywhere.

Maybe that is what he is questioning.

When I am trying to hold some portion of the stackup to certain dimensions,
I
usually specify that by specifying certain cores in certain locations,
which at
least eliminates some of the variables, and lets me chose where the
remaining
variables are.

If you truly are building the entire thing with prepreg, then individual
thicknesses
in the final outcome are strictly a function of the laminating press.

Who's stack up diagram and calculations, yours or theirs?

JaMi



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Gregory" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] Manufacturability of PCB Stack-up...


> Actually, I don't know enough about the actual fabrication process to
have
> any...it was our customer who had the question.
>
> I guess they were worried (as I said in my earlier post) about the
varying
> dielectric thicknesses posing some sort of difficulty...you just use
> different
> prepreg thicknesses to laminate it all up, right?
>
> Copper all seems pretty balanced to me, so no warping issues should
> occur...
>
> Me not being a true-blue board guy, I thought this would be a good
Technet
> question...
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -Steve Gregory-
> Senior Process Engineer
> LaBarge Incorporated
> Tulsa, Oklahoma
> (918) 459-2285
> (918) 459-2350 FAX
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>
>
> Steve,
>
> That doesn't look difficult at all...what are your concerns???
>
> Franklin D Asbell
> Network Circuits, Inc.
> Irving, Texas 75061
> 972-313-1400
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Gregory
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:54 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Manufacturability of PCB Stack-up...
>
> Happy Friday All!
>
> I've posted a drawing of a PCB layer stack-up at:
>
> http://www.stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Stackup.jpg
>
> I'd like to verify its manufacturability.  The reason for the
verification
> is that there
> are dielectric thicknesses that vary quite a bit from layer to layer.
>
> Can anybody comment on this?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -Steve Gregory-
> Senior Process Engineer
> LaBarge Incorporated
> Tulsa, Oklahoma
> (918) 459-2285
> (918) 459-2350 FAX
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