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David Bergman <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:08:04 -0600
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Hi Chris,

I am interested in the chemical that you believe is in FR-4 that makes
it non compliant. I am not aware of one.

David W. Bergman, CAE
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IPC
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-----Original Message-----
From: James, Chris [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:42 AM
To: (Leadfree Electronics Assembly Forum); David Bergman
Subject: RE: [LF] RoHS compliance PCB

I would be careful in saying all FR4 is RoHS compliant, it depends who
makes it. FR4 is not inherently RoHS compliant by nature, it rather
depends on how it was made and there may still be some laminate
producers in far flung corners of the world who are not producing
compliant material.

Regards,
Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Bergman
Sent: 17 February 2005 22:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] RoHS compliance PCB

All FR-4 laminates are RoHS compliant.  The flame retardant used in FR-4
is not a prohibited chemical under RoHS.  This is a common
misunderstanding.  You need to be considering the impact of the higher
processing temps on the laminate used and not worry about the flame
retardant.

Best regards,
Dave


David W. Bergman, CAE
Vice President, Standards, Technology and International Relations IPC
3000 Lakeside Drive # 309S Bannockburn, IL 60015 Phone 847-597-2840 Fax
847-615-5640 Mobile 847-867-1388 Main 847-615-7100
email [log in to unmask]      www.ipc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James, Chris
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:32 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] RoHS compliance PCB

talk to your pcb vendor also, they are pretty atune to the situation -
well the reputable UK ones are...
 
Chris

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Leadfree on behalf of Ken Patel 
        Sent: Thu 17/02/2005 19:46 
        To: [log in to unmask] 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: [LF] RoHS compliance PCB
	
	

        All,
        I visited the laminate supplier web-site and they all either
talk about
        Leadfree or Halogenfree. They are not talking about RoHS
compliance. Meaning
        we have to go to Halogenfree laminates directly? Are Leadfree
laminates RoHS
        compliance in general?
	
        Re,
        Ken Patel
	
        -----Original Message-----
        From: James, Chris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:42 AM
        To: (Leadfree Electronics Assembly Forum); Ken Patel
        Subject: RE: [LF] RoHS compliance PCB
	
        1. try it, test it, and prove it - depends on your processes and
end
        requirements. Apparently some people process Pb-F on phenolic.
	
        2. if you put the requirement on your engineering drawing
supplied to
        the fab house, maybe include it in your standard purchasing
agreement
        and request a d of c from the vendor, then you have pretty well
        fulfilled your due diligence being there are no real practicable
ways to
        test for RoHS compliance.
	
        Regards,
        Chris
	
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ken Patel
        Sent: 16 February 2005 23:06
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: [LF] RoHS compliance PCB
	
        All,
	
        I have heard that Fab Houses are moving directly to Halogenfree
process,
        skipping middle step knowing that Halogenfree is next in line to
be
        implemented. As our current fabs are built using laminate made
of Tg of
        170
        C or more with Nickel Gold surface finish, do you see any
problem?
	
	
	
        Do we have to worry besides updating the fab notes asking for
RoHS
        compliance? We expect fab house to build products based on
impedance
        requirement. Any comments, suggestion?
	
	
	
        Re,
	
        Ken Patel
	
	
	
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