I hope you get to http://www.dieoff.com

One thing we are trying to avoid is the "Olduvai Theroy".

The other is massive warfare.

David A. Douthit
Manager
LoCan LLC

MA/NY DDave wrote:

>Hi JoeFj, Brian, David, Chuck, IPC LF Listservers,
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>HEY A Good Discussion, with facts and links added, NEAT!!!
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>I really should spend more time reading your notes then replying, since the
>quality is quite good, yet let me add only a few interesting thoughts, and
>then I will read your links and notes later.
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>1}Despots won't solve this, just like Fat-Capitalist Democracies
>(Republics) can't, just like full democracies can't.
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> As humans it is hard to see beyond our yesterday, i.e. our past, and
>leadership in any system creates it's own tunnel vision.
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>2)I hope more are reading this mini-list than we think and will add in
>their own way.
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>3)The US EPA released a report just the other day, (I was surprised since
>Bush/Cheney particularly, and Blair exist with their lies and tend to
>squash opposition reports), which predicted the water in the Boston area
>will rise 2 feet. This may not be so bad since in Boston in another century
>of engineering they built buildings on wooden pile drivings that need to be
>water washed to prevent decay. HEY just a positive on all those places
>built on swamps a century ago.
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>Yours in Engineering, Dave
>Y i Engr, MA/NY DDave
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