This article describes the condition of the monitoring equipment used in
Indonesia, and, other insights with regards to early warning systems in
use today.  These insights tend to align with your comments.

American Red Cross - 800-435-7669

Shean

-----Original Message-----
From: Ahne Oosterhof
Sent: 12/28/2004 1:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Merry X-mas and eartquake


Yes, it would be great if it would have been possible to evacuate the
thousands of people who were in harms way.
But if my mapping skills are correct, the distance from the quake to
Aceh
was only 100 to 300 miles, the distance to Sri Lanka around 1000 miles
and
to East Africa around 3000 miles. I assume that it takes a little time
to
detect the quake, to calculate its magnitude and to realize its possible
impact, say 15 minutes? Then you have to find a phone number to call in
these various locations, starting with Aceh, where there is a civil war
going on too, and so on, and so on. And forget about the effort it takes
to
convince someone that a 30ft wave is coming.
Before you know it, the waves are hitting before the warning reaches
anybody, especially with the tsunami waves traveling at 300 to 600 mph.
With the present communication and information distribution system very
few
people could have been saved in SE Asia, maybe some in East Africa,
regardless how much information was available at USGS, Nasa or Noaa
(http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/s2357.htm).

It's hard to blame anyone person or group.
But maybe it is time for countries with coastal areas to arrange a
useful
communication system.
(India: coastline: 7000km!!! Ouch.)
A person on the Oregon coast asked why so many people are so dumb to
live so
near the coast and then noted that almost half of all people live near a
coast!

Ahne.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ingemar Hernefjord
(KC/EMW)
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 23:43
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Merry X-mas and eartquake

Forgot give you USGS URL. The US system had a clear image of the tsunami
hours before the flood reached Indonesia...with computers and all
communication systems we have, I can't understand why a warning wasn't
send.
Would take a few minutes for USGS to call Radio and Television stations
in
Indonesia and ask them to make a break and tell people what was coming.
HiTech...hmfff..and still mental blockout...

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/glossary.htm#source


Inge


-----Original Message-----
From: Ingemar Hernefjord (KC/EMW)
Sent: den 28 december 2004 08:13
To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; 'Tempea, Ioan'
Subject: RE: [TN] Merry X-mas



Ioan, nous semblons avoir oublié le message de Noël cette année !

My brother-in-law and his whole family are still in Phuket, but they
were
not on the shoreside. They used mobile telephone to tell us they were
OK,
then all communications were gone. 1,200 tourists from our region still
missing.

It's time for tsunami warning systems to be set up. The technology has
existed for years, the US have a system on trial, but ought to be global
standard...

9 on Richter scale, 900 times stronger than the last SF earthquake!


/Ingemar



-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: den 22 december 2004 16:36
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Merry X-mas


Technet,

checking Inge's last contributions I realized where his energy comes
from: a
young heart.

Therefore this is what I wish you all, stay young inside as this will
guide
you through recession, outsourcing and lead-free.

Ioan

P.S. Constantin Brancusi said : "quand on n'est plus enfants on est déjà
morts". You can see his sculptures at the Guggenheim in NYC.

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