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I have to agree with you Brian. I stayed out of this until now, figured
others more expert than myself would speak up. The supposedly "green"
technology spouted about ignores the real consequences. Electric, non
polluting cars sound great. Where do you get the electricity to charge them?
Build dams for clean hydroelectric power? Nuclear power? Burn oil? 
How about solar? All have , to someone at least, unacceptable environmental
effects.
Charles Caswell

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Ellis [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, 17 December 2004 6:13 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] DI Water

And, please, tell me how you are going to produce hydrogen in sufficient
purity and quantity to run a relatively low-efficiency device like a
fuel cell? AND ensure that there is no pollution in the process? The
much-vaunted fuel cell for, e.g., large-scale car use can never be. It
is being developed purely as a magnet for governmental funding.

If you wish to discuss this in more detail, I propose we shift the
debate to the EnviroNet.

I never proposed mixing the H2 and O2 to produce BANG. There are a
number of ways of non-explosively combining the two gases safely, the
simplest being a straightforward hydrogen flame.

Brian

Indrek Rebane wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Brian Ellis wrote:
>
>> No way. Producing PURE H2 and PURE O2 to produce PURE water would be
>> horrendously expensive, energy consuming and polluting.
>
>
> Not so, pure water would be a by-product of discharging the fuel-cell.
> (Ability to store solar energy for winter time anyone?)
>
> But by just mixing hydrogen and oxygen near fire:
> 2H2+O2 => 2H2O + BANG!
>
> Indrek
>
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