Now that just made me dizzy...I need a drink!
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> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David D. Hillman
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 4:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [TN] DI Water - Will I die? - NTC Friday
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> Hi folks! This has been a very fun and fascinating Technet discussion
> thread. And since its Friday, I just had to ask the question: "Don't
> folks
> have tap water available in their facilities for drinking purposes?
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> Dave Hillman
> Rockwell Collins
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> "Robert E.
> Mesick"
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> Re: [TN] DI Water - Will I die?
> 12/10/2004 03:42
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> Hello paranoids, Rudy, and other technetters - (Don't you people watch
> Monk?)
>
> RO,DI, Distilled, what's the difference? (also, nice the see the list
> so
> active after the last couple of years)
>
> DI, removes ions, cation and anion. Can adsorb some organics. Single
> beds
> of separate cation and
> anion resins can get down to 4-5 ppm depending on incoming water
> quality.
> Mixed beds (both types
> together in one column) can get down to about 0.25 ppm. Can get
> bacterial
> growth on columns (rare).
> Particles can pass through.
>
> Distilled water, expensive. Distillers have carry-over (like leakage in
> IX) and the usual pure distilled water
> is triple distilled. We used distilled water as a blank for a zinc
> system
> certification and still got 5 ppb zinc
> in the sample. Distilled water tastes flat because the dissolved gas is
> driven off during distillation.
>
> RO water. RO uses a membrane, Various membrane pore sizes but the
> tightest will remove 99.6 or
> 99.7% of the TDS in the incoming water. It will also remove bacteria
> and
> most organics over 200
> molecular weight. Our 550 ppm water in Santa Barbara comes out at less
> than 10 ppm after an cheap
> undersink RO. Commercial systems would get it under 3 ppm or equivalent
> of
> a cation/anion separate
> bed system. That 3 ppm would be 90% sodium chloride.
>
> Can you drink it? Sure.
>
> Will it hurt you? Not as much as a soda or coffee.
>
> Will it leach out all the good stuff from your body? No. It will
> dilute
> the acid in your stomach but tap water
> with calcium will tend to neutralize the acid as well as dilute it. So
> I
> predict that people who drink "pure"
> water will have more problems with heartburn and eat more Tums (all
> things
> being equal). I drink RO
> water and diet pepsi and don't buy Tums but I'm probably living on
> borrowed
> time.
>
> Will bacteria growing on your carbon filter hurt you? Probably not
> because
> most bacteria are not harmful.
> Even coliform bacteria is not harmful, just an indicator of
> contamination.
> You are full of it all the time (no,
> I'm not).
>
> The acid in soda pop is carbonic. The carbon dioxide gas that makes the
> fizz dissolves in water and
> makes H2CO3, carbonic acid. It can lower the pH in IX and RO systems
> down
> to below 4. It is easily
> stripped out with air or nitrogen. If they add citric acid to the soda,
> it
> will also add to the lower pH but
> usually the amount if organic acid is minimal compared to the CO2.
>
> Just remember, if you drink RO, DI or Distilled water, you need to
> supplement with Calcium and
> Magnesium because water is usually a very good source of calcium or,
> when
> you are 104, you will have
> brittle bones. (of course, high calcium diets may be responsible for
> kidney stones)
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Mesick
> (who's customer base has totally changed, but still watches the list for
> old times sake)
>
> --
> Remco Engineering
> Water and Wastewater Treatment Systems
> 805-658-0600 Fax 805-658-0667
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> Date sent: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:58:12 -0600
> From: Shean Dalton <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: DI Water
>
>> Clear light? Emit...transmit...reflect...blurry photon?
>>
>> Shean Dalton
>> Austin American Technology
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: R Sedlak
>> Sent: 12/9/2004 2:46 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] DI Water
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>>
>> Thank you Ryan... a long last a clear light has been shown on the
>> subject....
>> Rudy Sedlak
>> RD Chemical
>>
>> Ryan Grant <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Jack,
>>
>> This is a myth on the same level as "Coke Cola has ACID is it and
>> drinking it will eat out your stomach and teeth" (see www.snopes.com).
>> It is true that a penny placed in a glass of Coke will become etched
> by
>> the citric acid, and it is also true that placing a penny in a glass
> of
>> orange juice will etch it faster. It is also true that if you overdose
>> on citric acid (by drinking too much orange juice), it will kill you.
>> That does NOT mean drinking three or four glasses of orange juice a
> day
>> will harm you in any way! (I won't make that claim for Coke. Too many
>> confounding factors!)
>>
>> If you spit into that "pure" water, it won't be pure any more, now
> will
>> it. I'd like to see you get pure water into your stomach without
>> getting saliva in it. As a point of reference, all nuclear powered
>> vessels (submarines and aircraft carriers) get ALL of their drinking
>> water through distillation. Carriers also supply fresh (distilled)
>> water to the rest of the battle fleet. That's a lot of sailors
>> consistently drinking "pure" water for their 6 month tour at sea over
>> the last 50 years! Amazingly, I know of several retired sailors who
>> have survived the pure water ordeal and lived to tell about it.
>>
>> Ryan
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack C. Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:31 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] DI Water
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>>
>> Ok, don't laugh at me if I have been decieved,
>> but this conversation reminds me of something
>> my brother told me, and I don't know how to
>> prove if it is true or not.
>>
>> He said if you drank pure water consistently,
>> it would eventually kill you.
>>
>> Sounds weird, but his reasoning is that water
>> is a powerful solvent, and the reason tap water
>> doesn't do too much is because it already has
>> so much "stuff" in it. If you drank PURE water
>> it would keep leaching minerals and "stuff"
>> from your body and you'd DIE.
>>
>> For the record, I have learned that my brother
>> is not always right...
>>
>> bunk?
>> (or debunk?)
>>
>> Jack (aka "the gullible guy")
>>
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