Next time you hear some politician blather on about what a generous country we are, remember this; we're devoting less than half of what Bush is planning to spend on his own inauguration to helping people recover from one of the worst natural disasters in human history. 

The Bush administration yesterday pledged $15 million to Asian nations hit by a tsunami that has killed more than 40,000 people, although the United Nations' humanitarian-aid chief called the donation "stingy." 
The war on terror will take center stage at next month's second inauguration for President Bush in Washington, D.C. 
The estimated budget for the event is $30-40 million, but that will not cover security costs. 

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ahne Oosterhof
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:33 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Merry X-mas and eartquake

Yes, it would be great if it would have been possible to evacuate the thousands of people who were in harms way. 
But if my mapping skills are correct, the distance from the quake to Aceh was only 100 to 300 miles, the distance to Sri Lanka around 1000 miles and to East Africa around 3000 miles. I assume that it takes a little time to detect the quake, to calculate its magnitude and to realize its possible impact, say 15 minutes? Then you have to find a phone number to call in these various locations, starting with Aceh, where there is a civil war going on too, and so on, and so on. And forget about the effort it takes to convince someone that a 30ft wave is coming.
Before you know it, the waves are hitting before the warning reaches anybody, especially with the tsunami waves traveling at 300 to 600 mph. 
With the present communication and information distribution system very few people could have been saved in SE Asia, maybe some in East Africa, regardless how much information was available at USGS, Nasa or Noaa (http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/s2357.htm).

It's hard to blame anyone person or group.
But maybe it is time for countries with coastal areas to arrange a useful communication system. 
(India: coastline: 7000km!!! Ouch.)
A person on the Oregon coast asked why so many people are so dumb to live so near the coast and then noted that almost half of all people live near a coast!

Ahne.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ingemar Hernefjord
(KC/EMW)
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 23:43
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Subject: Re: [TN] Merry X-mas and eartquake

Forgot give you USGS URL. The US system had a clear image of the tsunami hours before the flood reached Indonesia...with computers and all communication systems we have, I can't understand why a warning wasn't send.
Would take a few minutes for USGS to call Radio and Television stations in Indonesia and ask them to make a break and tell people what was coming.
HiTech...hmfff..and still mental blockout...

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/glossary.htm#source


Inge


-----Original Message-----
From: Ingemar Hernefjord (KC/EMW)
Sent: den 28 december 2004 08:13
To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; 'Tempea, Ioan'
Subject: RE: [TN] Merry X-mas



Ioan, nous semblons avoir oublié le message de Noël cette année !

My brother-in-law and his whole family are still in Phuket, but they were not on the shoreside. They used mobile telephone to tell us they were OK, then all communications were gone. 1,200 tourists from our region still missing. 

It's time for tsunami warning systems to be set up. The technology has existed for years, the US have a system on trial, but ought to be global standard...

9 on Richter scale, 900 times stronger than the last SF earthquake!


 /Ingemar



-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: den 22 december 2004 16:36
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Subject: [TN] Merry X-mas


Technet,

checking Inge's last contributions I realized where his energy comes from: a young heart.

Therefore this is what I wish you all, stay young inside as this will guide you through recession, outsourcing and lead-free.

Ioan

P.S. Constantin Brancusi said : "quand on n'est plus enfants on est déjà morts". You can see his sculptures at the Guggenheim in NYC.

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