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David Douthit <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:38:20 -0700
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Steve,

You might tell them you have reduced the possibility of "tin whiskers"
with the solder.

David A. Douthit
Manager
LoCan LLC

Steve Gregory wrote:

>Hi Carrie,
>
>These were hand soldered using a RMA flux. The plating wasn't damaged in my
>opinion, how does tin plating become damaged by coating it with solder?  Yes,
>the thickness was increased, but that's why I say it surely didn't degrade
>the interface between the mating header and the contacts.
>
>This wasn't a widespread problem. Occasionally, the operator may have spent
>a little too much time over a pin with their soldering iron trying to fill the
> extra space in the oversized hole with solder, which allowed heat transfer
>to  occur throughout the pin and allow the solder to flow up the pin. Plus, the
> oversized hole reduced the capillary forces that are available allowed the
>solder to flow up to the contact area. How many times have you seen solder
>just  drop out of a oversized hole during wave solder? That's my take on why it
>happened.
>
>But I still don't think the entire socket needs replacing if we  removed the
>solder so that insertion of the header is accomplished.
>
>-Steve Gregory-
>
>Now  Steve...You KNOW the customer is ALWAYS right, except for when we
>need to  educate them.
>
>First, I would ask the customer WHY the rework is  unacceptable.
>They may actually have a valid reason.
>
>Next, I  would educate them.  They may be concerned about flux getting
>into the  connector.  Are you using OA or NC?  They may be concerned
>about  damage to the plated surface.  They may be trying to punish you
>and  teach you to do things right the first time even though we all know
>people  do make mistakes.
>
>-Carrie
>
>-----Original  Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve  Gregory
>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:10 PM
>To:  [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [TN] Samtec PCS2 Socket issue...
>
>Hi  All!
>
>First of all, I would like to wish everybody a safe and  happy
>Thanksgiving!
>
>I have an issue that I would like to bounce off  of you all. We're
>building an assembly that uses some Samtec "Power Combo  Sockets", here's
>the *.PDF link to  it:
>
>_http://www.samtec.com/ftppub/pdf/PCS2.PDF_
>(http://www.samtec.com/ftppub/pdf/PCS2.PDF)
>
>Due  to the design of assembly, we had to hand solder these in. The  hole
>diameter in the board for the power pins of these sockets are  .072",
>Samtec recommends .058".
>
>We experienced some sockets that had  solder flowing up into the power
>pin contacts to the point that prevented  full insertion of the mating
>header,  so we removed the solder to  allow full insertion using a solder
>extractor.
>
>The contacts for the  power pins are Tin plated as you can see  from
>Samtec's drawing, so  there really is no contamination from the solder
>as there would be with  gold plated contacts which the signal pins are
>plated  with
>
>Now  we're being told that our rework was unacceptable, and that the
>sockets  need to be replaced...I don't see what we did affects the
>performance  of  the socket in any way.
>
>If the mating header can be fully  inserted, then electrical contact
>should be fine in my opinion. If  anything, I feel that the electrical
>contact may have  been improved  slightly due to the tighter fit between
>the header pin and the  socket  contact...it surely isn't degraded.
>
>Am I out in left field about  this?
>
>I really appreciate any feedback!
>
>-Steve  Gregory-
>
>
>
>
>
>
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