Well said.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Kozlyk" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: very important information about 911 attacks


> Now I have to reply....
>
> The USA ( OK...all of North America) is suppose to be the leader in
> democracy and free speech, which also includes an openness to ideas &
> thoughts...being able to say anything, as an open thread to further
thought,
> speculation, etc, etc.
>
> Yes, there are many that may be completely preposterous....but here are a
> few more;
>
> There is a Santa Claus....
> There is an Easter Bunny....
> Mary had a little lamb ( actually gave birth to a little lamb....an
enquirer
> story of course !!!
>
> But, we as intelligent people, simply let whomever say whatever they think
> or feel....and carry on about our daily mission.....Done....As long as it
> does me no personal or economic harm.....We don't expend any energy
because
> of it.
>
> Especially e-mails, as they completely mask people & make us all equals.
> (I know nothing of you & you know nothing of me)
>
> So again, I say, the USA (North America, for that matter) is suppose to be
> the leader in democracy. That includes many of the residents of USA &
North
> America.
>
> Your retaliatory comments below suggest anything but democracy. To me it
is
> just as bad, if not worse, than the original. The gentleman simply made a
> statement & I certainly did not take it as blasphemous to the many who
died
> Both in the air & on the ground.
>
> We really must think for ourselves & not let the media drive us. Just
> because we are considering something, doesn't mean we are endorsing or
> supporting it.
>
> I see so many people quickly jumping to a huge conclusion.
>
> TDK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Ellis [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:22 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: very important information about 911 attacks
>
> May this male bovine excreta-style spam be expurged from this board
> illico prestissimo. Hopefully Keach will be able to trace your IP number
> and ban you forever from all IPC activity for this purely political
> conspiracy codswallop, which denigrates those who died in this tragedy.
> At least I have the courage to publish this flame under my own name.
>
> Brian
>
> Signer wrote:
> > I am a regular contributor to this group, but for what I have to
> > say today I prefer to use an alternative emailadress and a fake
> > name. I know it is inappropiate to post this here, but given the
> > huge importance of the issue and the fact that the
> > government-owned media is withhelding this kind of information
> > for the public, I decided to post this anyway. This message is
> > about the events that took place on the 9th of September of 2001
> > and about how the US government is insulting our intelligence
> > by expecting us to believe in their "official story" which
> > clearly is "the biggest lie ever" as I will show you here:
> > The following webpages:
> > [1]http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero14/missile/temoins_en.htm
> > ,
> > [2]http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero14/missile/trou_en.htm an
> > d
> > [3]http://www.serendipity.li/wtc3.htm demonstrate with good
> > quality photographs taken from official US Army websites that
> > the official story about the Pentagon attack simply cannot be
> > true. The evidence is overwhelming that whatever caused the
> > damage to the Pentagon it was not a Boeing 757. If you suspect
> > that these photographs are manipulated by "conspiracy nuts" who
> > made these websites than do like I did and try to find images on
> > the Internet that do show parts of a Boeing 757 lying in the
> > rubble. I promise you that you won't find any.
> > [4]http://www.prisonplanet.com/012004watson.html proves (by
> > showing the owner of the WTC admitting it on TV) that building 7
> > of the WTC was taken down by controlled demolition, just a
> > couple of hours after the main towers fell. The idea that it is
> > possible to organize a controlled demolition within a period of
> > a few hours in the middle of a disaster area is insane, so it
> > had to be planned before. The story is also in direct
> > contradiction to the official FEMA report.
> > There is in fact plenty of substantial evidence to be found on
> > hundreds of websites that also the two main towers were blown up
> > by explosives.
> > In the morning of 09-11-01 it was reported on
> > [5]http://www.wcpo.com that a Boeing 767 (United Flight 93) out
> > of Boston had made an emergency landing at Cleveland Hopkins
> > International Airport due to concerns that it may have had a
> > bomb aboard. The plane had been moved to a secure area of the
> > airport, and was evacuated. Three years after posting the story
> > its existence was reported for the first time on national radio.
> > Strangely enough a few hours later the story was retracted. Find
> > the evidence of this story on:
> > [6]http://www.policestate21.com/bomb_threat.html
> > This feeds the already strong suspicion that the planes that hit
> > the WTC were not the same planes that were reportedly used for
> > the attacks.
> > All 8 Black Boxes (2 per plane), which are designed to be
> > indestructible in the event of a tragedy, were damaged beyond
> > use. And still we are asked to believe that one of the hijackers
> > brought his passport with him on a domestic fight, even though
> > he knew he would not need it then, or ever again; that upon
> > impact the passport flew from the hijacker's pocket (or was he
> > holding it in his hands?), that the passport flew out of the
> > aircraft, that it flew out of the burning tower, and that it was
> > carried by the air currents and landed safely, where it could be
> > discovered, several blocks away ...
> > [7]http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2001/Sep-16-Sun-2001/n
> > ews/17011253.html
> > According to a recent poll by Zogby International almost half of
> > the New Yorkers believe US Leaders had foreknowledge of
> > impending 9-11 attacks and consciously failed to act. So why
> > didn't we hear about this important outcome on National
> > Television or in the newspaper? Seems someone is trying to
> > withhold this information from us.
> > [8]http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855
> >
> > Read all about 8 of the alleged hijackers being alive and well
> > after 911 (with links to official news reports):
> > [9]http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/alive.html
> > A brandnew book by wellknown Michael C. Ruppert
> > ([10]http://www.fromthewilderness.com/about.shtml) names Vice
> > President Richard Cheney as the prime suspect in the mass
> > murders of 9/11 and establishes that, not only was he a planner
> > in the attacks, but also on the day of the attacks he was
> > running a completely separate Command, Control and
> > Communications system which was superceding any orders being
> > issued by the FAA, the Pentagon, or the White House Situation
> > Room;
> >
> > Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R) and has
> > personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This
> > courageous man has risked his professional reputation, and
> > possibly his life, to get this information out to people. The
> > following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones' radio
> > show: "This (9/11) was all planned. This was a
> > government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order.
> > He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason
> > and mass murder."
> > [11]http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091204hilton.htm
> > Don't take my word for all this but check the links, and see
> > what you can find on "official" and other pages. It seems to me
> > that the so-called "conspiracy writers" do a much better job in
> > providing evidence for their claims than the official
> > writers do, and after all the official story tell just another
> > conspiracy, one about some Arabic terrorists working together
> > with chief-conspirator Osama Bin Laden to attack the US. But I
> > repeat: don't take my word for it, that would be just as foolish
> > as believing Goverment Officials who tell you that that you
> > simply must believe them or otherwise you are unpatriotic and
> > one of the bad guys. Search for information, check the facts,
> > and see where it leads you.
> > Sorry if I wasted your time, I just think you need to know this.
> >
> > References
> >
> > Visible links
> > 1. http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero14/missile/temoins_en.htm
> > 2. http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero14/missile/trou_en.htm
> > 3. http://www.serendipity.li/wtc3.htm
> > 4. http://www.prisonplanet.com/012004watson.html
> > 5. http://www.wcpo.com/
> > 6. http://www.policestate21.com/bomb_threat.html
> > 7.
>
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2001/Sep-16-Sun-2001/news/17011253.ht
> ml
> > 8. http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855
> > 9. http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/alive.html
> >   10. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/about.shtml
> >   11. http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091204hilton.htm
> >
> > Hidden links:
> >   12. http://www.policestate21.com/bomb_threat.html
> >
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