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        Hi Bryan:
        Have you tried swaging them a little loose, before soldering them? Just a thought.
        Regards,
        Ramon

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Kerr, Bryan
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:27 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] HMP Solder Joint Cracking


The cracks occur immediately on alloy solidification - I've watched it
happen under a scope. Can't be sure that some don't occur later but that is
a worrying thought which could affect reliability.

Cheers

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Marsico, James [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 15 September 2004 16:21
To: 'Kerr, Bryan'
Subject: RE: [TN] HMP Solder Joint Cracking


When are the cracks occurring?  Ate the assemblies thermally stressed after
the terminals are soldered?  Do the cracks occur after a wire is soldered to
the turrets?

Jim Marsico
Senior Engineer
Production Engineering
EDO Electronics Systems Group
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631-595-5879



        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Kerr, Bryan [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:07 AM
        To:     'Marsico, James'; IPC Mailing List (E-mail)
        Subject:        RE: [TN] HMP Solder Joint Cracking


        Thanks Jim

        We are seeing some of the edge solderability issues that you mention
however
        there is definite cracking as shown in microsections done by
ourselves.
        Another batch of pins has better solderability at the edge however
we still
        get cracks occurring.

        Cheers

        Bryan

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Marsico, James [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent: 15 September 2004 16:04
        To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; 'Kerr, Bryan'
        Subject: RE: [TN] HMP Solder Joint Cracking


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        We've seen this problem in the past.  The main culprit, in our case,
was the
        solderability of the terminal on the corner of the swaged area.
What looks
        like a crack may be an unsolderable line around the periphery of the
swaged
        area.  Try dipping the swaged end of a terminal into a solder pot
and see if
        the corner edge wets.

        Jim Marsico
        Senior Engineer
        Production Engineering
        EDO Electronics Systems Group
        [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
        631-595-5879



                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Kerr, Bryan [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
                Sent:   Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:35 AM
                To:     [log in to unmask]
                Subject:        [TN] HMP Solder Joint Cracking

                Hi

                We are fitting a swaged turret terminal and soldering using
96% Tin
        4%
                Silver alloy and have experienced cracks running around the
edge of
        the
                swage solder joint - between the pin and the solder.
Re-soldering
        gets rid
                of it in most but not all cases. I have thought that perhaps
some
        stress
                relaxation is occurring in the swage area (brass base
material)
        during
                soldering resulting in these cracks.
                Can anyone shed any light on this problem ?

                Cheers

                Bryan Kerr
                Principal Quality Engineer
                Process and Materials Laboratory
                AMS Hillend



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