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Louis Dallara <[log in to unmask]>
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Where's the Black Plague when we need it ???

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From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Brooks,Bill
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:49 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [DC] Lead free


LOL... Mitch you crack me up.

Air pollution does come from cows, and horses and pigs, and chickens,
and people... you should have seen the streets of New York around the
turn of the 19th century... whew...

Who knows, maybe there's an endangered species that feeds off the
stuff... like green house plants for example... makes fertilizer...
that's bio degradable... the methane is another problem... we need smoke
stack scrubbers for the exhaust ports on those animals.. might cause
global warming...

I agree with controlling the levels of pollution, but there have to be
limits on our insanity... What was the old saying... " the solution to
pollution is dilution"

We tend to do things here in the U.S. in a large scale centralized
fashion for money making reasons... spread it out... make it smaller...

I think we could have a more cellular approach to things that would make
our country less susceptible to terrorism, or less likely to suffer lack
of infrastructure in a natural disaster for example...

If each home was making their own electricity, fuel cells or solar
cells... or maybe some other form of power generation... mini nuclear
power plants for example... like the ones they put in Submarines...

Heheh... just kidding that would be crazy right? Then no single company
would control the market...

;)

Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 http://pcbwizards.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch S. Morey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 4:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] [TN]/[DC Lead free

yup, ya got me there Lou. Guess that's the reason I couldn't understand
most of the formulas in the magazine.

Maybe a comment by Phil Zarrow will help (Circuits Assembly, Sept 2004)
page 6: "I am far from convinced that the Pb-free movement is anything
in the way of environmentally advantageous. Sadly, though, it is
becoming a fact for anyone who sells products in the EU. The bottom line
is that no one behind it seems to give a you-know-what that it is likely
to be worst for the environment.  My remark about 'being better for it'
was a bit facetious; pain and suffering sometimes build character. But,
as I said, I cannot see where we all will be better off with this
so-called environmentally correct direction.  Beyond the legislative and
political aspects, Pb-free has become quite a medicine show. As you
likely noticed in my June column ["The truth Shall Make You Lead Free"
p.14], I have a particular problem with those who lie about processes
and properties in order to promote their patented solutions. So the
circus goes on"

Maybe we have it wrong here in the US. Please post some articles of
science that dispute Phil's claims. I'm open...  :)

Good day.

>
> When has Circuit Tree become a peer review scientific journal????
> Don't you think they know where there bread and butter comes from????
>
>>Got my latest CircuitTree issue with an article "Lead Free Groupthink"
> by Joseph >
>>Fjelstad; got the latest Circuits Assy with an article saying the UK
> didn't base their laws >on Science, it was a political decision.
>
> Yep and air pollution comes from cows... W
>
>



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