Scott,
I recall being approached by a guy in California with a similar request,
they made joy stick controls for the search lights used on helicopters. He
said the company that had supplied him with the boards was out of business
and he needed to reverse engineer the board to stay in business. I got a
quote for the firmware and pcb design engineering to him and he never spoke
to me again. Must have scared him away. His name was Jesse, and his web site
was at http://www.dynametricsystems.com/
But it's long gone...
I recall asking him similar questions about the ownership rights etc... the
story sounds very similar to yours.
Happy is right though, you don't want to get wrapped up in some sketchy
business deals and even if he is legitimate, will he pay? I have seen what
looked like very legitimate businesses pack up and run from their debtors
because they were in financial trouble and lied to their vendors. I lost 4
grand on one job where a guy did that.
So be careful.
Best regards,
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
http://pcbwizards.com
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From: Scott Riley [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:49 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] A Reverse engineering question
Looks promising, but I don't see any contact info on their site ?
The customer is outside this country. Of course in Upstate NY we do not
really consider someone from Toronto as being from a foreign country (their
just across the lake). The board shop that produced the part is gone as I
mentioned and the original supplier had discontinued the part and will no
longer supply it (I called them).
The company is a re-seller of networking equipment and needs the board for
some of the older hardware that they have.
Thank you all for the help. This is a new customer with a one time request
(well you never know). They got my name from a customer that I had done
several flex circuits and a couple rev. eng jobs. But, being a one man show
I don't think the ROI on this is sufficient for me to pursue any further.
Thanks again for you input.
Scott D. Riley
Technical Design Service
607-658-9322 - Office
607-785-1696 - FAX
www.techdesignservice.com
-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
McGlaughlin, Jeffrey A
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 4:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] A Reverse engineering question
The equipment is a little pricey for a one-off job, but if this is a
consistent source of work you might look at:
http://www.whingate.co.uk/reveng_pg1.html . We have demo-ed the system and
it does exactly as advertised. If you are only doing the one board you
might talk to them anyway. They may be able to do the reverse
engineering of a schematic on a sub-contract deal for you.
Jeffrey A McGlaughlin, CID
Engineering Designer
Battelle Memorial Institute
Columbus Ohio
http://www.battelle.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Riley [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 3:48 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [DC] A Reverse engineering question
I hate to switch gears on everyone, but I'm looking for a little input on a
job.
A customer sent me a 6 layer board (complete with all the components on both
sides) and wants to know if I can create data from it so that he can order
more. I have done several two layer boards as well as a couple simple four
layer designs, but six layers presents some problems. There is no
documentation (schematic, fab drawings, etc) and no manufacturing data.
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions on how this might be
accomplished ? Of course the customer wants it immediately and for cheap,
but before I NO QUOTE this one I thought I'd get some input from the the
experts. Thanks in advance for your help..
Scott D. Riley
Technical Design Service
607-658-9322 - Office
607-785-1696 - FAX
<http://www.techdesignservice.com/> www.techdesignservice.com
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