I agree with Happy on this.


 	
 	
 	
 	
Paul Brionez - CID <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
PCB Designer
PH: 847-673-2718 x1394
FAX: 847-673-9789
DIVISION: Electronic/Systems

MPC Products Corporation
<http://www.mpcproducts.com> ISO 9001 Certified
Skokie, IL USA    <http://www.mpcproducts.com> 	
 	
 	


-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Happy
Holden
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 3:11 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] A Reverse engineering question


Return-Path: [log in to unmask]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2004 20:09:00.0572 (UTC) FILETIME=[017C1DC0:01C49C29]

Scott,
Be cautious of a request like this.  In the past, when we have had request
like this, the companies were involved in pirating intellectual property
and our President kindly "No bid" it rather than get in the middle of what
later turned out to be a bloody court battle with prison time for some of
the parties.  If this is a "good and loyal customer", they would have no
problem signing a "Hold Harmless and Release Document" saying that theft
of Intellectual property and Copyrighted artwork is a crime and the board
is their property, therefore Tech Design Services will not be held liable
for the accuracy and legality of this "Reverse Engineering Request".  If
they won't sign it - - run as fast as you can from them......  This is not
an easy nor "Cheap" project!
Happy Holden
Westwood Associates





Scott Riley <[log in to unmask]>
Sent by: DesignerCouncil <[log in to unmask]>
09/16/2004 03:47 PM
Please respond to "(Designers Council Forum)"; Please respond to Scott
Riley


        To:     [log in to unmask]
        cc:
        Subject:        [DC] A Reverse engineering question


I hate to switch gears on everyone, but I'm looking for a little input on
a
job.

A customer sent me a 6 layer board (complete with all the components on
both
sides) and wants to know if I can create  data from it so that he can
order
more.  I have done several two layer boards as well as a couple simple
four
layer designs, but six layers presents some problems. There is no
documentation (schematic, fab drawings, etc) and no manufacturing data.

Does anyone have any experience or suggestions on how this might be
accomplished ? Of course the customer wants it immediately and for cheap,
but before I NO QUOTE this one I thought I'd get some input from the the
experts.  Thanks in advance for your help..

Scott D. Riley
Technical Design Service
607-658-9322 - Office
607-785-1696 - FAX
 <http://www.techdesignservice.com/> www.techdesignservice.com







---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV
1.8d
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil.
To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET
DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL)
Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases >
E-mail Archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask]
or 847-509-9700 ext.5315
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------



---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil.
To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL)
Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

***************************************************************
This message and any attachment are confidential and may be
privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure.  If you are
not the intended recipient, you must not copy this message or
attachment or disclose the contents to any other person.  If
you have received this in error, please email the sender or
telephone in the United States at (847) 673-8300 and delete
this message and any attachment from your system.  For further
information about MPC Products Corporation please see our web-
site at http://www.mpcproducts.com or refer to any MPC Products
Corporation office.
***************************************************************

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil.
To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL)
Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------