That's a difficult one Lou,
As regards Intellectual property, I have heard stories of US companies
outsourcing their designs to China and getting delays and problems with
their products.... and then they see their product show up on the market a
few months later with a slightly different name being sold like hotcakes.
They steal Intellectual property in foreign countries... So, I wouldn't
recommend the wholesale exodus of our products to communist China or India
for that matter.
The way I see it, there are 2 options.
Train others to take care of themselves, or pay their governments to take
care of them. We have been doing the latter.
Right now, the US is the largest foreign aid contributor in the world... but
the world still lives in poverty. It's not working.
The concept is: If we teach the world to feed itself, maybe we won't have to
spend so much on Foreign Aid.
It's the old saying, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a
man to fish and you feed him and his family for life..."
I hate to see jobs disappear in the US as much as anyone does. I wonder,
would we be better off if Detroit never outsourced its technology to other
countries? Would we still be supporting Japan with aid instead of their
being a manufacturing giant now? Would the Textile industry be better if we
didn't build factories in depressed countries? These are tough questions to
answer.
The whole thing may be academic anyway, I don't think there is a whole lot
you or I can do about it. But if you have any influence on the decision
makers, I would caution them about running to the Chinese to make all of our
products for us, just because it looks like it might be cheaper. They may
find out that the money they spend now will vaporize in a few years... with
little or no return.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
http://pcbwizards.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Dallara [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:54 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] [NTC] Education...a little off topic but valid..
Bill;
So do we educated the world to design are electronics and give them our
intellectual property so they can have all are engineering jobs along
with the manufacture base just because they have a lower standard of
living and will work cheaper????
Inquiring minds want to know??
Lou Dallara
-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Roger Stoops
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:37 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] [NTC] Education...a little off topic but valid..
Estonia is one of the Baltic countries, formerly of the USSR, bordered
with Russia to the east and Latvia to the south, Finland to the north
across Gulf of Finland. Current temp is 68deg F with partly cloudy
skies as of 2:10 their time...hmmmm, nice golfing weather...
http://www.abacci.com/atlas/geography.asp?countryID=191
-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Brooks,Bill
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:56 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [DC] Education...a little off topic but valid..
Do I detect a slight hint of sarcasm Indrek? :) (BTW, Where is
Estonia?)
"Hmmm, no educating those peasants now... wouldn't want to give them any
IDEAS in their little 'mutton heads'..." says the noble to the castle
guard...
Sounds like England during the reign of King George... Didn't our
American ancestors leave there because of the disparity of those who
have verses those to have not... I think even feeding your family by
hunting deer in the local forest was a crime... All things belonged to
the King... especially access to knowledge.
America's best defense is an educated populace, armed with knowledge and
the means to protect its free dissemination to all citizens. Lord help
the fool that invades this ARMED, and EDUCATED country...
(That's why when they reduce access to education, they want to take all
your weapons away... can you imagine an ARMED 'UNEDUCATED' nation? I'm
sure it makes the elite very nervous...)
Of course those that would have power over us would prefer to do it
slyly without our knowledge... its less likely we would know who to
retaliate against when they stole our freedoms...
But that's really not a fundamentally PCB related subject... just one I
feel passionate about as well. I believe that educational materials need
to be made available to the people of this country at very reasonable
cost and ease of access... it's a source of strength to our country and
our friends. And you may notice that Designers Council members get
discounts on educational materials and events through their
membership... that's another good thing...
'Evil reigns when good men do nothing...' - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 http://pcbwizards.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Indrek Rebane [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:10 AM
To: (Designers Council Forum); Brooks,Bill
Subject: [OT]Re: [DC] Lead free
Almost as bad idea as giving free (governmentally funded) education to
people. Including higher education. What would they think? Poor people
may get educated! People would not quit study towards their physics
degrees just because they have no money, thou they are better then
anyone else in the area. What a ridiculous idea! What will country do
with it's people when they are not attached to 6 hours of soap operas on
TV every day anymore? Whole punch of psychiatrists would also go bust.
Can't let that happen to our economy.
Indrek
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Electronics Engineer | Tartu Science Park
Phone: (+372) 7 302 641 | Riia 185, 51014 Tartu
Fax: (+372) 7 383 041 | Estonia
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