You could always use lysergic acid diethylamide.
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
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Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 10:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Wash your hands after using your "toxic" computer
This gives a whole new meaning to "terminal" illness.
Dewey
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Simonik [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Wash your hands after using your "toxic" computer
And I'll bet they drink copious amounts of fruit flavored soda with
brominated vegetable oil, or chew gum & candy made with aspartame or
phenylketonurics!
Dave Simonik
Process Technician
Sanmina-SCI
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gervascio [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Wash your hands after using your "toxic" computer
Probably the same idiots that wanted to ban dihydrogen monoxide- a real
killer- colorless, odorless resulting in the deaths of thousands of
people
annually! Write your congressman!
Tom Gervascio
Senior Process Engineer
Sparton Electronics
(352) 540-4040
>>> [log in to unmask] 06/04/04 10:30AM >>>
This is the kind of scare tactics that resulted in RoHS. An art form
disguised as science. I suppose everyone who has worked in a
drilling/machining shop, since FR-4 became popular about 35 years or so
ago,
is already dead from exposure to dust from the TBBPA compounds? I'd
guess
there would be more danger from the glass dust.
May the good Lord preserve me from extremists, cranks, technocrats and
the
misguided.
Brian
Dennis Fritz wrote:
> Just saw this on the internet. Wonderful new publicity about
> brominated flame retardants. Have posted to HalogenFree forum, but am
> so mad that I can't resist posting here, too. What a wonderful piece
> of scientific reporting.
>
> Denny Fritz
> MacDermid, Inc.
> ****************************************
> Updated: 03:42 AM EDT
> 'Toxic Dust' on Computers Tied to Disease
> By RACHEL KONRAD, AP
>
> SAN FRANCISCO (June 3) - "Toxic dust" found on computer processors and
> monitors contains chemicals linked to reproductive and neurological
> disorders, according to a new study by several environmental groups.
>
> AP
>
> The survey, released Thursday by Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition,
> Computer TakeBack Campaign and Clean Production Action, is among the
> first to identify brominated flame retardants on the surfaces of
> common devices in homes and offices.
>
> Electronics companies began using polybrominated diphenyl (PBDEs) and
> other flame retardants in the 1970s, arguing that the toxins prevent
> fires and cannot escape from plastic casings.
>
> "This will be a great surprise to everyone who uses a computer," said
> Ted Smith, director of the Toxics Coalition. "The chemical industry is
> subjecting us all to what amounts to chemical trespass by putting
> these substances into use in commerce. They continue to use their
> chemicals in ways that are affecting humans and other species."
>
> Researchers collected samples of dust from dozens of computers in
> eight states, including university computer labs in New York, Michigan
> and Texas, legislative offices in California, and an interactive
> computer display at a children's museum in Maine. They tested for
> three types of brominated flame retardants suspected to be hazardous.
>
> The most toxic piece of equipment discovered by the researchers was a
> new flat-screen monitor in a university in New York, implying that
> newer equipment isn't necessarily cleaner.
>
> Penta- and octa-brominated diphenyl will be taken off the market by
> the end of the year. Environmental groups are demanding legislation
> that would ban deca-brominated diphenyl, too.
>
> PBDEs, which have caused neurological damage in laboratory rats in
> numerous studies, are related to polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs).
> PCBs have been used in fire extinguishers, fluorescent lights and
> liquid insulators since the 1920s.
>
> PCBs were outlawed in the 1970s, but the toxins don't erode and still
> persist in the environment.
>
> The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, part of the U.S.
> Department of Health and Human Services, and several other
> organizations have confirmed that PCBs damage brains of human fetuses.
>
> Scientists have not directly correlated exposure to PBDEs with
> specific diseases or developmental impairment. Researchers at
> University of California, Davis, and elsewhere are studying possible
> links between brominated flame retardants and autism, but results are
> years away.
>
> Independent researchers who reviewed the new study say consumers
> shouldn't throw out their computers, and they needn't wear special
> gloves or minimize exposure to computer monitors. There's no known way
> to remove dust-born PBDEs, so special wipes or sprays wouldn't reduce
> chemical exposure.
>
> "The levels in the dust are enough to raise a red flag, but not enough
> to create a crisis," said Dr. Gina Solomon, senior scientist at the
> Natural Resources Defense Council and assistant professor of medicine
> at University of California, San Francisco. "I have an old computer
> monitor in front of me now, and I'm not about to throw it away. But
> when I get a new one, it darn well will be free of these chemicals."
>
> The electronics industry has been reducing or eliminating some
> brominated flame retardants since the late 1990s, when European
> countries began prohibiting the sale of products that contain the
> chemicals.
>
> Dell Inc. and many other computer makers continue using a flame
> retardant related to PBDEs on circuit boards. They use lead, mercury
> and other toxins in central processing units and monitors. But Dell,
> along with Apple Computer Inc. and others, stopped using PBDEs in
> 2002.
>
> "People can be very confident about their new computer purchase," Dell
> spokesman Bryant Hilton said. "We've worked a lot with suppliers, and
> we require audits and material data sheets on all our products. It's
> an important topic to be aware of, and brominated flame retardants are
> something we've been very focused on and will continue to be focused
> on."
>
> On the Net:
>
> Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition: http://www.svtc.org
>
>
> 06/03/04 22:59 EDT
>
> Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. The information contained in the
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> distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated
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