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"Wolfgang E. Erat" <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:58:44 -0400
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Hmmmm the USA converting to metric .. are you kidding ??? THAT WOULD BE UN-
PATRIOTIC.
Adopt a system from old Europe, no !@#$% way ! We know how to measure
stuff... thanks, dont need your help.

right, now I will be banned from this forum, bye anyway.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack C. Olson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: [TN] Joe's Metric Challenge


> I am in technet "digest mode", so I won't know if you
> got any response to your challenge until tomorrow, but...
>
> I am one of those circuit board designers
> who works for a company
> that requires documentation in metric,
> but who still does all the design database work in mils.
>
> I know, I'm pathetic.
> partly fear,
> partly "I don't know how to switch over" in Mentor
> partly lazy, comfortable habit.
>
> I have very little respect for board designers
> who won't change a process or a parameter
> even when the facts show that it should be changed.
> It doesn't matter "how we've always done it",
> I believe in science.
> and progress.
> And now I realize I AM one of those old farts.
>
> I've been squirming away from this subject for years.
>
> Now I'm imagining what people in other countries
> think of me when they read my posts.
> and I'm a little embarrassed.
> The obstinance, or arrogance,
> (or whatever you want to call it)
> of using an illogical system of measurement
> just because we were taught that way as children
> never trying to learn the better way,
> must cause people to shake their heads and wonder.
>
> At least I could make an attempt to use a common method
> of communication in public, dontcha think?
>
> So I am accepting your challenge, Joe!
> (at least in public <grin>
>
> In fact, I think we should adopt this in all IPC forums,
> so I might just cross-post this in the Designer's Council
> Flame me if ya want!
>
> but
> THANKS for the kick in the head!
>
> Jack (aka "the new guy" with old habits)
>
>
>
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> ----- Message from Joe Fjelstad <[log in to unmask]> on Mon, 26 Apr 2004
> 11:07:09 EDT -----
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>  Subject: Re: Stack-up for 2 layer, 3oz. copper board - a metric
>           viewpoint
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>
> <snip>
>
> It's time for a change that is long overdue.
>
> To that end, maybe everyone in this forum could start by supplying metric
> values first in these conversations and for some time to come put the
> older, less
> logical measurement values in parenthesis following the metric value for
> historical reference (or for those who still find comfort in the old
ways).
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> Kind regards to all,
> Joe
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