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Mike Fenner <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:22:55 +0100
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Maybe...., but in the car itself, it will get very hot indeed by  the
literal greenhouse effect,

Regards

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dehoyos, Ramon
Sent: 26 April 2004 14:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] ABS Plastic Melting Temperature


        Hi Robert:
                   Do a search to find out the temp in the direct sun in
Phoenix Arizona. That will give you  the temp in a car trunk  In a trunk
the highest temp would be under 60 deg C. The thermal chamber test is
not indicative of reality. That is why in 20 years you have not had any
problems. . The SQA group wants to cover their behinds in case something
happens to a board while is being transported. I would also contact the
ABS plastic box manufacturer.  They probably have made tests that could
provide the right info.
        Regards,
        Ramon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Croslin, Robert [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:08 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      [TN] ABS Plastic Melting Temperature
>
> This is probably a little out of the normal range of questions taken
by the
> Technetters, but here goes.  We've been using various boxes made of
ABS
> plastic with fire retardant to enclose our various electronic gadgets.
In
> twenty years, we've never had a problem with any of them cycling back
from
> the field with any kind of thermal related distortion or warp to the
cases
> even though they may sit in a rep's trunk in areas like Phoenix,
Arizona
> under elevated temperatures.  Recently, our SQA group bought a new
thermal
> chamber so they can do some environmental testing.  They cooked the
units at
> 80*C and the plastic melted.  Not surprising, since the softening
point is
> around 72*C.  Now, they're asking the engineer to provide some kind of
a
> test specification for them to test to.
>
> We've gone out and bought several specs used by the auto industry, but
they
> just list various ranges and guide you to developing your own spec.
Does
> anyone know of any spec anywhere that would cover plastics used in, or
left
> in the trunk or interior of an automobile?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bob
>
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