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"Dack.Kelly" <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:45:12 -0700
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Yes, you've hit the nail on the head. It's open to interpretation.

Every so often, a DR (Deviation Request) from a fabrication vendor rolls
across my desk asking that a line width/spacing tolerance be increased from
+/-10% to +/-20%. This can make sense on the fine lines routed at .005/.005,
but makes no sense w/ regards to wider power traces that may exist along
side these smaller ones.

... Just viewed Andy's post as I write: <<The reason for that is that
over-etching is usually consistent by around 0.5 to 1 mil irrespective of
trace width>>

This makes sense to me, but so often I see vendors expressing the tolerance
as a percentage.

I really appreciate the response from everyone so far. I am still interested
in hearing from anyone w/ an opinion on this subject.

-- Kelly




-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:05 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Etching Plating tolerance specs...

It's a great question, Kelly.

Seems like every way I've seen it, it's open to interpretation. Does a plane
area still have a "trace width"?

If the drawing says +/- 10%, does that mean the fabricator takes 10% of the
smallest trace on the board and uses that number everywhere? Or does it
apply to each width?

Better yet, I've seen it as a trace/space tolerance. If a minimum trace is
routed at minimum space anywhere, any deviation is a violation of one or the
other.

I know, I know... That really just didn't help at all....




                       "Dack.Kelly"
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Etching Plating
                                                           tolerance
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                       "Dack.Kelly"







Greetings,

An inconsistency in our fab specs regarding etching/plating tolerance finds
me at a mental "cross-roads" regarding this subject.

The spec for some of our designs express the tolerance in the form of "mils"
--  +/-.001, while other spec express the tolerance in the form of a
percentage -- +/-10%.

In one sense, on a design w/ .010 nominal lines and spacing, these two specs
are the same. However, on a design w/ .005/.005 or .004/.004 lines and
spacing, using a tolerancing method of +/-.001 vs. 10% has drastically
different results.

I would like to see any feedback on the pro's and con's of each method.
What
method do you use and why?

-- Kelly

Kelly Dack
PCB Dsnr
IGT (International Game Technology)
Reno, NV

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