There are a bunch of contentious issues getting discussed here and
causing temperatures to rise. None of these are appropriate for this
forum.
Could we please restore some civility to this discussion, or better yet
can it altogether. There's a place for politics, and this sure isn't it.
Andy Kowalewski
Chairman, IC Designers Council
SyChip Inc
Phone (972) 202 8852
-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark
Larson
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:52 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Nope, I meant "legal immigrants"
With all due respect....
Nobody forces you to work in the USA, and nobody forces you to even be
here (you could have gone elsewhere)it is your choice, before you make a
claim to your rights, make sure you take care of your responsibilities,
until you are a citizen, you have no rights as far as I'm concerned
It has been decided in many court cases and executive decisions, that
you pay taxes affords you no rights, whether I or any other citizen pays
taxes give us absolutely no rights or special privledges, maybe it did
where you came from, it doesn't here
-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Barbara Burcham
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:31 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Nope, I meant "legal immigrants"
Or...do the work and become a citizen.
Barbara J. Burcham, C.I.D.
Fairfield Industries, Inc
281-275-7687
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From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Craig Cullum
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:23 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Nope, I meant "legal immigrants"
Allow me to add the perspective of the other side.
As a LEGAL resident alien, I am not allowed to vote but I am most
certainly taxed on my income. I think the phrase "taxation without
representation" comes to mind. Perhaps some compromises may work:
- allow legal immigrants to participate as election workers at the polls
(currently this is also a restriction
and we all know after the 2000 "election" that things didn't go quite
right)
- allow legal immigrants to vote at the local level(s) only
More food for thought; thank all for your time.
Craig Cullum, Engineering Technologist, AMTELCO
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:14 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] Nope, I meant "legal immigrants"
>
>
> I see... they are fighting for 'non-citizens' to vote. I assumed an
> immigrant was a legalized or naturalized citizen... I did not think to
> include people on workers visas, tourist visas, educational visas,
> etc...
>
>
>
> I stand corrected. And I agree they should not be allowed to vote
> unless they are citizens.
>
> Bill Brooks
> PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
> Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barbara Burcham [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:53 PM
> To: (Designers Council Forum); Brooks,Bill
> Subject: Nope, I meant "legal immigrants" [text][html]
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>
> April 19, 2004, 7:11AM
>
>
> Immigrants' voting rights becoming a major issue
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