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Mike Fenner <[log in to unmask]>
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Steve, those are "dangerous thoughts".
In future please try not confuse things with logic.

What is being sought here is not answers but research grants to ensure
maintenance of the eco-industry. Actually measuring the real world now
will cut off a promising income stream where tests can be conducted,
findings published, conferences attended, more research initiated, etc..
Correlating all that to the real world is an entirely separate project,
which will also then have to be debated and discussed and verified and
is not till much later - if at all.

Regards

Mike




-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Creswick, Steven
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:15 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Old Electronics Can Harm the Environment


David,

It is amazing how we can take something and bend and twist it to support
our own agenda, then pass it as off something akin to have 'come down
from the mount'?  (Notice that I did not specifically slam the news
media, or lawyers .... guilty that they are)

Yes, but isn't the last sentence just as intriguing?  Will the real
results get reported if they do NOT show leaching?

  .... or will they grind the pc up, stick it in a barrel full of acid,
roll it for a week to simulate the ride in the garbage truck, then pour
the witches brew into the landfill and claim environmental disaster?

Why can't the leachate from a 'typical' landfill be checked for heavy
metals?  Make that a dozen 'typical' landfills.  Don't we have enough of
them around the world to use as samples??

The logic of this endeavor evades me.

Steve Creswick - Gentex Corp
Zeeland, MI - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: David Suraski [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:53 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [LF] Old Electronics Can Harm the Environment


Here's another one of these articles that I just came across on
www.theledger.com.  I hope you'll appreciate the hilarity/hyperbole of
the first line as much as I did.  I am only forwarding this, not
endorsing it!

Regards,

David Suraski
AIM
+1-401-463-5605 ext. 5210
www.aimsolder.com


Old Electronics Can Harm the Environment
By Tom Palmer
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Speed kills. I'm not talking about drugs or cars; I'm talking about
electronics.

All of these gadgets we buy and use to do things faster are a potential
environmental liability.

At least they are when we get tired of them, or they quit working, and
we buy a newer one and throw the old one away.

According to a recent news release from the University of Florida,
experts estimate that 60 million personal computers will become obsolete
by 2005.

That doesn't include all of the old cell phones and VCRs, handheld
computer gadgets and miscellaneous electronic jetsam-inwaiting.

How bad is it, you might ask.

Pretty bad, according to a draft study completed by recently by
University of Florida researchers.

The study found these devices release enough lead to be classified as
hazardous waste under federal environmental regulations.

The source of lead, which can cause nervous system damage and is fatal
in high enough doses, is the solder used to connect the circuits.

The researchers also measured the release of other toxic metals --
mercury, arsenic, cadmium, barium, silver, selenium and chromium -- that
are components in electronic devices, but reportedly found no problems.

Now researchers will be continuing the experiment to find out what
happens in a real landfill.

The experiment will occur in a section of Polk County's North Central
Landfill near Lakeland in a two-year research project sponsored by Polk
County and the Florida Center for Solid and Hazardous Waste Management,
a research center based at the university's College of Engineering.

It will be interesting to see what they find.

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