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Rudy

There is no pH endpoint, that is the whole problem. You speak as if a
saponifier were just an unbuffered solution of MEA. From my experience
of over 30 years of using buffered commercial saponifiers, I know they
stop working long before there is a very noticeable drop of pH, and I'm
quite categorical about that. I know of no MEA- or NaOH-based saponifier
which will even think about working at pH 9.8 to 10 with an RMA/RA flux
system. At that pH, you are generating white residues where there is flux.

Brian

Rudy Sedlak wrote:
> When using a saponifier, the available alkalinity is a key part of
> cleaning, not the "reserve" alkalinity...
>
> pH is a measure of available alkalinity...and it is important to
> remember that since pH is a logarithmic function, a drop of one pH unit
> means a drop of 90% of available alkalinity....
>
> Titration is a measure of reserve alkalinity....which might be of some
> interest, but not on the next board that goes through the cleaner...
> Remember, you really will never use all the alkalinity that is titrated,
> so, if we were going to be completely accurate, we would use a titration
> controlled by pH, with the endpoint at the lowest acceptable pH for
> cleaning boards.....if I were using a Monoethanol Amine based system,
> with a starting pH of 11.3, or so, I would use the system to a pH of 9.8
> to 10.0.
>
> Rudy Sedlak
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