You might reduce your moisture, by reducing your glue amount and stenciling
the glue on.
FYI
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter L. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Moisture under chip capacitors
Hi Technet,
I didn't receive many responses when I asked if anyone has come across
seeing the moisture-within-the-glue defect underneath SMT components.
In order to remove the mositure off the assembled units, I am experimenting
with various low temp. baking cycles. I like to ask if anyone have
experience removing moisture that was trapped within the glue underneath
SMT components (0805s)?
Due to other thermal sensitive T/H components on the boards I am limited to
100C baking or less.
Rgds,
Peter
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:29:00 -0400
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It is epoxy based material. If you see voids, it got be there before
curing....
jk
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter L.
>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:26 PM
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>Subject: Re: [TN] Moisture under chip capacitors
>
>
>The adhesive was printed and cured at no more than 2deg/s and
>150degC for 100secs.
>
>The particular adhesive used was Epibond 7275. We suspected
>that it was a material related issue - either the glue was
>mishandled and left too long on the line, or old/ expired
>batch of glue was used.
>
>Any suggestion on method to drive the moisture away under the
>components? Baking conditions?
>
>
>Rgds,
>Peter
>
>
>
>
>>Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:47:30 -0400
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>>What is the adhesive and how was it cured?
> jk
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Lee
>>Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:11 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: [TN] Moisture under chip capacitors
>>
>>
>>Technet,
>>
>>I have come across a rash of failed assemblies that have 0805
>>capacitors and resistors, bottom side glued, wave soldered
>and washed.
>>Trouble shooter reported touching up the solder joints on a few areas
>>and the boards would pass test.
>>
>>I had a look at one board which was reported to have a 0805 56K
>>resistor with "drifting" values. I pulled the component off
>>mechanically in order not to apply any heat and noticed several
>>mini-voids within the adhesive body. I have seen solder bridge within
>>the glue before but this was the first time I saw wet residue within
>>the voids.
>>
>>You can view a sample image from Steve's web site:
>>http://www.stevezeva.homestead.com/files/SMTAdhesive.jpg
>>
>>The
>>image showed the bottom side of the cracked resistor after removal
>>(white), with a portion of solder mask (green) and SMT adhesive (red).
>>
>>I used a 8mil stencil. The thermal profile was verified and conformed
>>to the slope/ curing specs.
>>
>>Has anyone seen this before? Any explanation as to how the void was
>>formed and how moisture got tapped in? Does anyone re-use
>their glue on
>>the line or throw away any left-over to avoid moisture in the glue?
>>
>>
>>
>>Rgds,
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