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Wee Mei

This may help in explaining the difference between ESD protective materials.
http://www.staticcontrol.com/pdfs/P1%20Choosing%20the%20Right%20Static%20Bag
.pdf



Dave Fish



----- Original Message -----
From: "Lum Wee Mei" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags


> Having read some of the replies, I fully understand it is not the colour
> that determine the property of the material. What then is the acceptable
> property or material used in this bubble wrap/bag made from? This will
> allow me to check with our supplier to see whether they give me the
> correct specification. This will allow me to recommend precautionary
> measures (I really do not want to see staff in the whole lab breaking
> into rashes , Hee Hee Hee) ), step up our ESD control or any contingency
> plans, etc if I am to continue to use up this roll of bubble wrap.
>
> Thanks to those who find time to give me your precious feedback.
>
> Regards,
> Wee Mei
>
> Bev Christian wrote:
>
> >Thanks, Mel.
> >Bev
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mel Parrish [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: August 27, 2003 11:06 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags
> >
> >
> >Perhaps another note is necessary for perspective.
> >I had problems in the past where our auditors were rejecting all product
> >simply because they were placed in or near any pink colored material
without
> >regard for the actual material properties or their condition.
> >Bev is a good friend and one of the most knowledgeable people in our
group
> >and this comment was not intended in any way to reflect negatively upon
him
> >or his input concerning a material allergic reaction.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mel Parrish
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:47 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags
> >
> >
> >Hi Bev and all,
> >I think that we need to be a little cautious concerning grouping of all
> >products simply by the color. Historically there was a restriction from
the
> >use of Pink Poly which was in the classification of Static Dissipative
that
> >did cause solderability issues due to release of surface treatments to
> >materials stored in or near the material. This was well documented at the
> >time and other more preferable materials were required such as the nickel
> >layered materials that were not prone to this characteristic while adding
> >shielding capability. The color is not the issue but the actual
properties
> >of the material is. Even when there was a serious issue with the pink
poly
> >material there were other pink materials that were OK to use.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Mel Parrish
> >Director, Training Materials and Resources
> >Soldering Technology International Inc.
> >102 Tribble Drive
> >Madison, AL 35758
> >256 705 5530
> >256 461 9566 Fax
> >[log in to unmask]
> >www.solderingtech.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Bev Christian
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:11 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags
> >
> >
> >Wee Mei,
> >We also had a case where a pink poly had an amine in it and one of our
> >employees broke out in a horrible rash - to the point where she was taken
to
> >the hospital.
> >regards,
> >Bev Christian
> >Research in Motion
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Lum Wee Mei [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: August 27, 2003 3:47 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags
> >
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >We recently ordered cushioned ESD bags and a big roll of the pink bubble
> >wrap. The pink bubble wrap is used to wrap PWBA that are bigger than
> >those ESD bags that we ordered. I have heard that pink bubble bags have
> >impact on PWBA even though they are ESD. However, my supplier ensure
> >that there is no problem or impacts at all as long as they are ESD
coated.
> >
> >I just came back from the IPC-A-600 Inspector course and was told by my
> >instructor that pink bubble bags absorb moisture readily and will age
> >the PWBA ESD coated or not as it produce dioxin. This will cause the
> >PWBs difficulty in wetting.
> >
> >I just searched the TechnNet archieves but I am lost in those messages.
> >Can someone be kind enough to give me some good reference or advice what
> >am I going to do with that big roll of pink bubble wrap?
> >
> >Thanks and regards,
> >Wee Mei
> >
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