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"Marsico, James" <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:12:27 -0400
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Sorry if I mislead you, but I haven't used a mask yet.  Just thought it's
the right way to go for large quantities.  I don't have any information on
masking material.
To answer your other question, we purchased the CRR2000.

Jim Marsico
Senior Engineer
Production Engineering
EDO Electronics Systems Group
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631-595-5879


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Dehoyos, Ramon [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:52 AM
        To:     'TechNet E-Mail Forum.'; 'Marsico, James'
        Subject:        RE: [TN] Urethane Coating Spot Removal...

                James:
                What kind of material did you use to make the masks and what
make of
        CCR machine did you use?
                Regards,
                Ramon

        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Marsico, James [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:51 PM
        > To:   [log in to unmask]
        > Subject:      Re: [TN] Urethane Coating Spot Removal...
        >
        > We've just put a CCR System on line and I like it much better than
        > chemical
        > striping, especially for spot removal.  The ESD features are also
good.
        > The
        > best thing about spot removal on many assemblies is that you can
make a
        > mask
        > which exposes only the areas to be removed and blast away.
        >
        > Jim Marsico
        > Senior Engineer
        > Production Engineering
        > EDO Electronics Systems Group
        > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
        > 631-595-5879
        >
        >
        >         -----Original Message-----
        >         From:   Steve Gregory [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        >         Sent:   Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:44 PM
        >         To:     [log in to unmask]
        >         Subject:        [TN] Urethane Coating Spot Removal...
        >
        >         Hi All!
        >
        >         First I would like to thank everyone for all the dialog
about ISO
        > and Prototypes. There has been some extremely good discussion!
        >
        >         My next subject has been talked about recently, but I
would like
        > to
        > get a little more detailed about some things.
        >
        >         We are about to embark on a task up-grading a bunch of
assemblies
        > (1200+) that have been coated with urethane conformal coating. The
        > upgrades
        > will consist of removing just a handfull of parts, and replacing
them,
        > maybe
        > adding a jumper wire or two, and replacing part number labels with
new rev
        > ones. So we're going to spot remove and spot re-coat.
        >
        >         The -7721 lists a preferred removal method order table,
and it
        > lists
        > Thermal as number 1, Grinding / Scraping number 2, Solvent number
3, and
        > Micro Blasting number 3.
        >
        >         I've searched the achives and picked-up a bit of info, and
there
        > was
        > a thread asking about what chemical to use removing urethanes from
plastic
        > SMT parts. I also did a search of the 'NET for some info, which
prompts me
        > to ask some questions.
        >
        >         Why would Micro-blasting be listed as one of the least
desirable
        > methods? I understand the ESD issue, but from what I learned in
looking at
        > two companies that I found that make this equipment (Crystal Mark
and CCR
        > Company), they address the ESD issues. Are their claims over
stated?
        > There's
        > a *.PDFdocument that CCR has up on the web, that makes for some
        > interesting
        > reading. Go to:
        >
        >         http://www.ccrco.com/study.pdf
        >
        >         In that document, they state that using a thermal method
is
        > hazardous because the coating will produce toxic gases when burnt.
I
        > called
        > Conathane and they said that if it is overheated, there is some
cyanide
        > given off. But I would think that only happens when you actually
burn and
        > char the coating, true? I've been playing around with a hot air
pencil and
        > a
        > orange stick, and that works with no charring or burning, but
that's dead
        > slow.
        >
        >         I really don't want to use chemicals because it is so
messy and
        > takes forever, and we're only going to be doing a handful of
places on
        > each
        > board.
        >
        >         So what method would you use if you had 1200 boards
staring you in
        > the face, with just a handfull of places on each board?
        >
        >         -Steve Gregory-
        >
        >         P.S. I'm looking into the possibilities of leasing a
        > micro-blasting
        > system, unless somebody says that's the worst thing I could do...
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