JaMi,
you are now officially on my "Hell Yeah" list. I applaud your posts and am
behind everything you said.
Jason Gregory
SMT Production Supervisor/
Integrated Product Team Leader
LaBarge Inc.
(918)459-2367
(918)459-2221 fax
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http://www.labarge.com
JaMi Smith
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BAL.NET> cc:
Sent by: TechNet Subject: Re: [TN] Machine registration fees...
<TechNet@listserv
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06/11/2003 03:05
PM
Please respond to
"TechNet E-Mail
Forum."; Please
respond to JaMi
Smith
While some of these products may in fact be "foriegn born", the reality of
the situation is that most of the "sales" of this equipment is governed by
the jurisdiction in which it is sold, and once again, certain jurisdictions
have certain "warranty protection" notwithstanding where it the equipment
was made, or what the ELUA states, simply by reason of the fact that the
equipment was sold within the jurisdiction.
Yeah, your Honda or Toyota may have been "Made in Japan" (notwithstanding
that it may claim to be "assembled" in the USA), but if it is sold in the
State of California, it is still governed by the California "Lemon Law".
Yeah, your Pick and Place Machine may have been manufactuured in Denmark or
even Podunk Arkansas, but nevertheless, if you bought it new or used in the
State of California, it is covered by "implied merchantability" laws and
certain "warranties" irrespective of what the company lawyers in Denmark or
Podunk might want to think.
At the very least, most of this equipment is probably sold thru a local
dealer that is in fact legally vulnerable, and who needs to be reminded
that he is in fact legally vulnerable, and who might just need to be
reminded that he might have to lose his house to pay for the 240K piece of
machinery that he has sold to someone or removed the software from.
Anyone who has physically gone into an auction and physically removed
software from a piece of equipment needs to be criminally prosecuted, if
not minimally physically restrained.
I almost wish I owned a piece of such equipmment so that I could "go off"
on the @#^%(*! %^))*#@ that would try and touch it.
Talk about going 5150 . . .
The more I think about this, the more furious and irrational I am becomming
. . .
Give me the *&$&!@ $#}|$#& names and phones numbers . . .
This is totally unacceptable . . .
JaMi
----- Original Message -----
From: Smith, Russell (US LA)
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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] Machine registration fees...
Well Said !
T h e only stumbling block , I can think of in this whole scenario is that
many of these Companies are Foreign, and ultimately governed by the laws
of those countries. Which almost without exception are written with the
sole purpose of protecting the companies within their borders, regardless
of the impact that occurs elsewhere.
Just a word of caution we need to be cognizant of before we name names is
that facts must be correct , and statements verified , before being spoken
or written, less the door is opened for legal action in the form of Libel
, and slander suits.
Thus I propose collectively if we want to pursue this that we do so off
this net and through our individual e-mail , as both a protection and
courtesy to the IPC.
Russell Smith
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