Roland
I'm sorry you took a general remark personally. This was not intended.
I have no nostalgia of mono screens. Nor am I conservative. I'm just fed
up with receiving illegible e-mails, written in inappropriate colours in
what appears to be either microscopic or megalomaniac font sizes and
unsuitable font styles. I try to rely on my e-mail client (latest
version) to provide me with consistently easy-to-read messages that do
not require manipulation and using default non-HTML means does just
that. In fact, if I see a bad case of illegibility, I just delete the
message without even trying to read it.
As for emphasis, there are "standard" ways of doing it without HTML,
just the same as there standard emoticons. These may be _like this_ or
simply *this*, without the need of colour (which doesn't show up on some
clients, anyway). Even worse is the HTML message with an error, which
shows all the tags, and this happens too regularly (these I also usually
delete unread, as the messages are sometimes hidden behind a mass of tags).
Another point that you are perhaps unaware of. The latest anti-spam
filtering uses naive Bayesian techniques. These are much more likely to
falsely delete an HTML message as spam than a non-HTML one, simply
because most spam messages use HTML techniques and the probability of
such a message being spam is just much higher, because the tags are also
interpreted. If you consistently do not receive answers to all your
e-mails, it may be that your interlocutors are using such filters. (I've
been doing so for some months, and it has taken a lot of fine tuning for
the logic to work well, but it is not 100% certain.)
Your accusation of our using oil lamps is therefore misplaced: in fact,
I'm probably more at the cutting edge of IT technology than most
subscribers here, if only because I do a lot of video work from digital
camera through to DVD (I'm a beta tester of one of the most widely used
professional video editing softwares and also an ECAD one). I therefore
have sound technical reasons for stating what I did, just as much as the
criticism I sometimes make in the Internet Commentaries in Circuit
World, Microelectronics International and Soldering & SMT, where I try
to show up abuse of Internet technologies (and have won two awards for
these writings).
As I say, I'm sorry you took my remarks personally, which was not
intended. I'm not repentant, though, on the stand I took and the fact
that the majority of contributors to this forum do not write in HTML
shows that I'm not alone.
Best regards,
Brian
Roland Jaquet wrote:
> Dear Brian,
>
> As you found out, I totally disagree with you on HTML, as I find it
> better to read in colors from time to time as black over white is
> straining my view. Moreover, when one needs to emphasis something, the
> colors are nice.. i.e. the text from someone in a color etc.. or the
> question and answer in different colors..
>
> You probably have the nostalgia of the black and white TV or the green
> screen computer you sold me (a PET from Commodore) so many years ago..
>
> I too, am stuck with a 56K modem but it doesn't bother me that much as I
> am using a software to get the optimum from it..
>
> BUT this should not refrain you from being polite ! John and you should
> save your time and practice PRO-ACTIVE behavior instead of finding all
> the reasons for lighting up oil lamps..
>
> You have to know that I am particularly disappointed with your behavior
> and language. I had esteem for the dinosaur, full of knowledge that you
> are, and start hoping new blood will come and take over the shrinking
> members 1'700 to 700 - minus the disgusted ones such as Earl and many
> others I know...
>
> It is useless to reply to this message - I am disgusted of the old gang
> acting out in the dark with such a cranked tongue.
>
> Bye - Roland
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> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De : Brian Ellis <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> À : [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Envoyé : mercredi, 16. avril 2003 14:06
> Objet : Re: [TN] dwindling numbers
>
> I agree with you, John. HTML for e-mailing is a pest of the first water.
> Not only does it unnecessarily consume bandwidth (remember 95% of the
> world's Internet connections are NOT broadband, including myself, stuck
> with a 56 kbit/s connection), it signifies inconsiderate selfishness for
> those forced, through no fault of their own, to download them. Not only
> that, HTML text messages are frequently MUCH more difficult to read,
> because the font and/or colour have been chosen to please the sender,
> rather than the reader. And does it convey a iota more intelligence to
> the message? NO! Unless it is to say that the originator is a s.....h,
> i...........e, b.....d! Do I feel strongly about this? YES!
>
> Brian
>
> J. Brewer wrote:
> > ....perhaps there's been that many chased off by the increasingly
> > HTML polluted postings , making many of the topics unreadable
> > by those of us with text only readers.
> >
> > (Yes, I know you can have the digest send text only, but that's not
> > a help.... the reams of empty formatting<P> <center> <H3> drek
> </H3> </center> <P>
> > far outweighs the content ).
> >
> > ....hint...hint....
> >
> > John
> >
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