It is about time for the US Electronics Manufacturing industry, via IPC or
others, etc., to stand up and demand some kind of reasonable protection. As
Graham pointed out, in the not too distant future, China will have
everything it needs from the US and the rest of the Western countries. When
the US no longer has a viable electronics manufacturing capability, will we
be asking China to sell to us the components we need to defend against them?
I can hear them laughing already...

Phil Culpovich

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Daan Terstegge
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:17 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Dwindling members


The strange thing with all this is that people in the US or in Western
Europe would never consider working for the small amounts of money that the
collegues in China or Eastern Europe make, or under their working
conditions. And the way some of these countries allow their industry to
pollute the environment is a bloody shame, so we say !  But only few of us
are willing to pay for products made under the circumstances that we demand
for ourselves, we rather have a similar but cheaper product made in
low-salary countries.
But then, if we are not buying our own products, then who is supposed to do
so ?  It's our own greed that makes us jobless in the end!

Daan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Christison" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] Dwindling members


> I'm not sure I follow the logic of all the arithmetic but I do agree that
the
> future of 1st World electronics mass production does not look good.
>
> Bear in mind that electronics is in the worst recession it's ever had and
a
> lot of the US jobs would have gone anyway. What I do suspect is that when
the
> world slowly pulls out of recession those jobs will not re appear in
Europe/US
> but we will see substantial growth in the Far East to meet the demand.
Lets
> face it why should electronics be any different from automobiles, ship
> building etc.?
>
> By the way isn't Technet an international forum?
>
>
> >
> > Bill and the other 780 members....
> >
> > I attended the keynote address on Wednesday 2nd April at the IPC
conference,
> > given by the Chairman of NEMI.
> >
> > In this address, he advised that there are around >6million folks
employed
> > in the US electronics industry.
> >
> > During the past 12 months or so, with a drop of around 20% in revenues,
some
> > 600,000 folks lost their jobs.....to the Chinese.
> >
> > The NEMI roadmap shows a drop in revenues of similar proportions over
the
> > next 2 to 3 years as more and more go to China....that would suggest
that
> > another ~ 2,000,000 will lose their jobs - so the TechNet might dwindle
to
> > around 50 or so?
> >
> > I figure that you folks need IPC, as your trade association, to make
efforts
> > to protect your jobs.
> >
> > BTW and IMHO, it won't take China that long to acquire what they need,
and
> > then close the door to you.
> >
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