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It would be the cost to replace it.  You bring up a great point.  A roll of
tape may only be valued at $50 but to reorder that same role may take a
$500 minimum buy.



                      "Marsico, James"
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                      02/20/2003 09:51         Subject:  RE: [TN] EXPIRED MATERIALS
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We were kicking around a similar idea, but regarding the $200 limit, is
that
the cost of the material on hand or the cost to replace it?  For example,
you may have material that is expiring which is worth $100, but to purchase
it new, with a minimum purchase requirement, it may very well exceed $200.
What then?

Jim Marsico
Senior Engineer
Production Engineering
EDO Electronics Systems Group
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631-595-5879


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             From:             Gordon F. Davis Jr
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             Subject:          Re: [TN] EXPIRED MATERIALS

             All work areas including the stock and production lines
perform a
check of
             all materials (typically done the last day of the month or the
first
of the
             month) to determine which materials expire in the next 30
days.
From
             there, if the material cost is less than $200, and it is not
needed
within
             the next 30 days, it is disposed of in accordance with our
environmental
             policies.  If the material is needed for build or it is
greater than
the
             $200 set point, it is submitted to the cognizant materials
engineer
for
             recertification testing.  From there, the cognizant materials
engineer has
             approximately 30 days to have the material tested and
determine if
it can
             be extended.  If it tests satisfactory, the material is
relabeled
with a
             shelf life that is half of the original shelf life.  This
system
typically
             works very well.  We find that most materials tested for
recertification
             pass.  Very seldom do we retest materials for a second
extension.
We also
             do our best to minimize excessive stock to reduce the
potential for
expired
             materials needing recertified.

             Gordon Davis
             Sr. Materials and Processes Engineer
             Rockwell Collins




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             Hello Technet:
             I'm looking for information regarding what other companies do
with
expired
             consumable materials.  In the past, when more resources were
available, we
             had the luxury of having a fully staffed Materials Lab,
consisting
of both
             Engineers and Technicians.  One of their functions was to test
materials
             that were due to expire, in the hopes of extending the shelf
life.
This
             was
             a normal course of business and most materials were
successfully
extended.
             Nowadays resources are limited, and we're looking into
reducing the
shelf
             life extension process.  One problem is that some materials
have a
minimum
             purchase requirement, much more than can be used up within the
             manufacturer's recommended shelf life.   Again, what I'm
looking for
is
             what
             others do to 1) limit inventory and 2) what is done with
expired
material.
             Please keep in mind that we have to answer to either the DoD
or FAA,
so
             proper control is important.

             Thanks,

             Jim Marsico
             Senior Engineer
             Production Engineering
             EDO Electronics Systems Group
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             631-595-5879

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